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Old 03-26-2018, 10:14 AM
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Re: "Beards are sin!" False doctrine?

But one main reason I was not humiliated over a beard much was that I did not last long in mainstream Apostolic Churches. As a brand new Jesus Only believer having come up in The Jesus Movement and the Charismatic movement I joined an Apostolic Church in 1982 in Springfield Ohio.

The Pastor explained to me the standards of the Church. No one with a beard could be a member yet he said "Brother Gibson no one is going to Hell over a beard". I shaved then my first meeting there he announced I would be teaching the midweek meeting. Soon afterwards I was appointed an Elder.

As time went on I noticed the visiting Preachers usually hammered on the standards and made comments like "theres a bunch of devils running around out there preaching there is Bible for beards"! To me that was pitiful and shameful. The Pastors brother in law showed up one night with a beard and a visiting preacher made sport of him until he got up and fled the Church.

Well after a year of such things the Pastor got up and preached a message on perfection. It was a direct refutation of the doctrine I had been teaching. We were told Bible perfection was for men to shave, take off watches and rings and wear long sleeves. For women to never cut their hair again and never wear pants, make up or jewelry.

That was Biblical perfection.

It was my last time there.

Since then I have been part of Apostolic groups but never mainstream ones.

I met with the E
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Old 03-26-2018, 10:56 AM
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But one main reason I was not humiliated over a beard much was that I did not last long in mainstream Apostolic Churches. As a brand new Jesus Only believer having come up in The Jesus Movement and the Charismatic movement I joined an Apostolic Church in 1982 in Springfield Ohio.

The Pastor explained to me the standards of the Church. No one with a beard could be a member yet he said "Brother Gibson no one is going to Hell over a beard". I shaved then my first meeting there he announced I would be teaching the midweek meeting. Soon afterwards I was appointed an Elder.

As time went on I noticed the visiting Preachers usually hammered on the standards and made comments like "theres a bunch of devils running around out there preaching there is Bible for beards"! To me that was pitiful and shameful. The Pastors brother in law showed up one night with a beard and a visiting preacher made sport of him until he got up and fled the Church.

Well after a year of such things the Pastor got up and preached a message on perfection. It was a direct refutation of the doctrine I had been teaching. We were told Bible perfection was for men to shave, take off watches and rings and wear long sleeves. For women to never cut their hair again and never wear pants, make up or jewelry.

That was Biblical perfection.

It was my last time there.

Since then I have been part of Apostolic groups but never mainstream ones.

I met with the E
Nobody here against beards ever heard them preached as sin.
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Old 03-26-2018, 02:58 PM
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Nobody here against beards ever heard them preached as sin.
Thats a riot aint it!

Just think. Men with no sin in their life are not respectable enuff to step on the HOLY PLATFORM!

The Heavenly Father, The Lord Jesus Christ would not be permitted to address the most holy saints in an Apostolic Church!

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Old 03-26-2018, 03:04 PM
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Thats a riot aint it!

Just think. Men with no sin in their life are not respectable enuff to step on the HOLY PLATFORM!

The Heavenly Father, The Lord Jesus Christ would not be permitted to address the most holy saints in an Apostolic Church!
Now that is a profound thought.
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Old 03-26-2018, 03:05 PM
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Thats riot aint it!
Facial hair is a source of pride and pride is a sin.

And

Rebellion against the mog is a sin.

Heard it under those 2 accusations.

One time I asked one of the ministers at the church why facial hair was prohibited. Mind you, I shaved immediately when told that my mustache was pride and pride is a sin. No questions asked. Some time passed and I realized there was nothing scriptural about the rule. So I asked...

The answer given was that I had been around long enough to know better.
I asked again, and I was given the same response.
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Old 03-26-2018, 03:06 PM
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Facial hair is a source of pride and pride is a sin.

And

Rebellion against the mog is a sin.

Heard it under those 2 accusations.

One time I asked one of the ministers at the church why facial hair was prohibited. Mind you, I shaved immediately when told that my mustache was pride and pride is a sin. No questions asked. Some time passed and I realized there was nothing scriptural about the rule. So I asked...

The answer given was that I had been around long enough to know better.
I asked again, and I was given the same response.
At least he was consistent!
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Old 03-26-2018, 03:42 PM
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Thats a riot aint it!

Just think. Men with no sin in their life are not respectable enuff to step on the HOLY PLATFORM!

The Heavenly Father, The Lord Jesus Christ would not be permitted to address the most holy saints in an Apostolic Church!
Ouch.
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Nobody here against beards ever heard them preached as sin.
Sorry can't help you there. But I was told flat out by Steve Winter that if you didn't have a beard you were effeminate.
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Sorry can't help you there. But I was told flat out by Steve Winter that if you didn't have a beard you were effeminate.

I have noticed that it seems to swing from one extreme to the other. I quoted a scripture once about not rounding the corners of the beard and the other person in the debate said "Well then you shouldn't round the corners of YOUR beard". Just like that from one extreme to the other!
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Old 03-26-2018, 03:44 PM
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Sorry can't help you there. But I was told flat out by Steve Winter that if you didn't have a beard you were effeminate.
That's an extreme in the opposite direction. I think I might have said such tongue in cheek. But honestly, I don't believe being clean shaven is a problem in any way shape or form.

Unless... one has pride in their jaw line. Then it's a sin. They should be required to grow a beard.
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