A Handmaids Tale

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

So only right-wingers can be racist nationalists.
Got it.
Then you want to change it from a simple left-wing/right-wing narrative to one where "well they are a right-wing in all the bad parts", but "the parts I like are left-wing".
Got it.
Was Abraham Lincoln right or left wing...

I didn't say that. I only said that the Nazis are commonly considered right-wing on account of their racist nationalist authoritarianism. I also never said that I like any part of their system. I only acknowledged that they were leftists when it came to economics.

You're going personal. If you don't believe that racist nationalism and authoritarianism is distinctly right-wing, that's a fair statement of opinion. However, leftists typically favor equality, worker solidarity, and democracy within a system of checks and balances that tends to reduce authoritarianism and dictatorship. This isn't a denial that many leftists have gained power and threw equality, solidarity, democracy, and checks & balances out the window. But those who do betray the platform on which they claim to stand and had typically campaigned on.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I didn't say that. I only said that the Nazis are commonly considered right-wing on account of their racist nationalist authoritarianism. I also never said that I like any part of their system. I only acknowledged that they were leftists when it came to economics.

You're going personal. If you don't believe that racist nationalism and authoritarianism is distinctly right-wing, that's a fair statement of opinion. However, leftists typically favor equality, worker solidarity, and democracy within a system of checks and balances that tends to reduce authoritarianism and dictatorship. This isn't a denial that many leftists have gained power and threw equality, solidarity, democracy, and checks & balances out the window. But those who do betray the platform on which they claim to stand.

Venezuela is both racist nationalists and authoritarian and it is left wing.
Pol Pot was a racist nationalist and authoritarian and left wing.
Mao was a racist nationalist and authoritarian and left wing.
I could go on and on...

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Venezuela is both racist nationalists and authoritarian and it is left wing.
Pol Pot was a racist nationalist and authoritarian and left wing.
Mao was a racist nationalist and authoritarian and left wing.
I could go on and on...

Yes, you could go on and on.

However, even if you choose to go on and on, the Nazis are typically regarded as being right-wing on account of their racist nationalist authoritarianism...whether you believe that is a true assessment of the reality within the regime or not.

Hitler vehemently denounced the leftist Marxists within Germany and had them arrested and often murdered. Most Jews in Germany were noted Marxists or accused of Marxism, this was one justification for Hitler's police action against the Jews. And while I had said that the Nazis tended to be leftist economically, their economics leaned more towards fascism in that the social prosperity promised to the people didn't materialize as promised. The redistributed wealth was redistributed to the military-industrial complex of Nazi Germany and civil reconstruction, the wealthy few helping to fund the war, and those in authority. Not to mention the corporatism that began to flourish under Italy and Germany. This corporatism had syndicates such as the “National Fascist Confederation of Commerce,” the “National Fascist Confederation of Credit and Insurance,” and so on. All of these “fascist confederations” were “coordinated” by a network of government planning agencies called “corporations,” one for each industry. One large “National Council of Corporations” served as a national overseer of the individual “corporations” and had the power to issue regulations of a compulsory character. All these factors make the Nazis right-wing according to many sources.

I'm not saying if these assessments are true or false. I'm only saying that this is why they are considered right-wing.