Saved Without A Pastor??

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

And . . . you are contradicting yourself.

No he didn't contradict himself.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

No he didn't contradict himself.

It certainly appears that way to me. He said "No one who is alive is saved yet", and then he said "You are saved". What am I missing?

How about what Jesus said?

Luke.7
[50] And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.

This woman was alive, and she was saved.

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

It certainly appears that way to me. He said "No one who is alive is saved yet", and then he said "You are saved". What am I missing?

How about what Jesus said?

Luke.7
[50] And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.

This woman was alive, and she was saved.

What did Paul say? Phillipians 3:10-11 "That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; [11] If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead."

So what is the great Apostle Paul saying in the bold? That he might be saved. This was late in his life, and if he wasn't saved yet, at this point he is still saying "if by any means I might attain." So what does that tell you? No one has received salvation yet while still living. If the Apostle Paul said this I know I'm in the book.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

What did Paul say? Phillipians 3:10-11 "That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; [11] If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead."

So what is the great Apostle Paul saying in the bold? That he might be saved. This was late in his life, and if he wasn't saved yet, at this point he is still saying "if by any means I might attain." So what does that tell you? No one has received salvation yet while still living. If the Apostle Paul said this I know I'm in the book.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

It certainly appears that way to me. He said "No one who is alive is saved yet", and then he said "You are saved". What am I missing?

How about what Jesus said?

Luke.7
[50] And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.

This woman was alive, and she was saved.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

That's an oldie and a goodie.