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09-04-2018, 09:18 AM
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen
Evil leftists. They passed SCHIP and saw to it that every child in America could have health insurance coverage, even if their parents did not. Those evil creatures. lol
Under SCHIP, over 8 million American children were provided much needed health insurance coverage they wouldn't have had otherwise. My step-daughter, Addison, was one of them. It was the most significant plank in Hillarycare that was actually signed into law.
What would have happened to Addison under the right-wing Reconstructionists? This little girl would be dead today. What has Trump done for those 8 million kids? Nada. And the Republicans keep trying to destroy every last bastion of SCHIP, while offering nothing to replace it.
While you guys toss around all this theoretical Reconstructionist mumbo jumbo.. real life beckons. Lives are in danger from war, sickness, disease, and other conditions that we as a society can address. Kids with real names and real families, needing real healthcare. The right just seems too uninformed, lazy, greedy, brainwashed, or uncaring to do anything about it.
Christian Reconstructionists would dissolve the evil socialist plan known as SCHIP. And thereby leave millions of children in free fall, dying from sicknesses that could be treated if they only could afford them. Not cool, Amanah. Not cool. And frankly, that's not biblical either.
Love thy neighbor as thy self.
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09-04-2018, 09:29 AM
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen
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Evil leftists. They passed SCHIP and saw to it that every child in America could have health insurance coverage, even if their parents did not. Those evil creatures. lol
Under SCHIP, over 8 million American children were provided much needed health insurance coverage they wouldn't have had otherwise. My step-daughter, Addison, was one of them. It was the most significant plank in Hillarycare that was actually signed into law.
What would have happened to Addison under the right-wing Reconstructionists? This little girl would be dead today.
While you guys toss all this up as theoreticals. Real life beckons. Lives are in danger from war, sickness, disease, and other conditions that we as a society can address. The right just seems too lazy, greedy, brainwashed, or uncaring to do anything about it.
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Do all children see doctors?
I need car insurance because I drive a car, house insurance because I live in one. But health insurance because I'm alive?
Bro, these government programs are not because of virtue.
Listen in the county of Broward, we must register our bicycles. If they are stolen they can track the bike "if" found. Now, the real reason for registry is to find out who has what, in case there comes a day when they need what we have. Insuring children for health care, has another reason. A reason which has nothing to do with anyone's well being.
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09-04-2018, 09:34 AM
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen
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Do all children see doctors?
I need car insurance because I drive a car, house insurance because I live in one. But health insurance because I'm alive?
Bro, these government programs are not because of virtue.
Listen in the county of Broward, we must register our bicycles. If they are stolen they can track the bike "if" found. Now, the real reason for registry is to find out who has what, in case there comes a day when they need what we have. Insuring children for health care, has another reason. A reason which has nothing to do with anyone's well being.
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One word, "Addison".
She's here today because she qualified for treatments her mother, who didn't have health insurance, couldn't afford.
All you have are theoreticals and "what-if" concepts. Chalk on a blackboard. I have a healthy living breathing little girl who wouldn't have made it otherwise.
So, say what you will.
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09-04-2018, 09:40 AM
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen
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One word, "Addison".
She's here today because she qualified for treatments her mother, who didn't have health insurance, couldn't afford.
All you have are theoreticals and "what-if" concepts. Chalk on a blackboard. I have a healthy living breathing little girl who wouldn't have made it otherwise.
So, say what you will.
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Chris, you didn't answer my question.
Do all children see doctors?
Hello!
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
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09-04-2018, 09:42 AM
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen
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Chris, you didn't answer my question.
Do all children see doctors?
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No. Some parents choose not to take their children to the doctor. But, that's their choice. The option remains, should they change their mind. Does it not? And shouldn't any parent reserve the right to change their mind?
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09-04-2018, 09:46 AM
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen
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No. Some parents choose not to take their children to the doctor. But, that's their choice. The option remains, should they change their mind. Does it not? And shouldn't any parent reserve the right to change their mind?
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Hey man, that's not what I asked you.
Do all children go to doctors????
OK, how about, do all children NEED to go to doctors???
How about never seeing a doctor all the way into their old age???
Just think before you answer.
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
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09-04-2018, 05:33 PM
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen
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Originally Posted by Aquila
While you guys toss around all this theoretical Reconstructionist mumbo jumbo.. real life beckons. Lives are in danger from war, sickness, disease, and other conditions that we as a society can address. Kids with real names and real families, needing real healthcare. The right just seems too uninformed, lazy, greedy, brainwashed, or uncaring to do anything about it.
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I and my family live theonomically to the best of our ability. Unlike the leftist socialists like yourself, we do not demand that other people pay our way through life and shield us from reality.
But once again, your entire message here on this forum can be summed in one short statement: Jesus may get you to heaven, but Uncle Sam will take care of everything else here and now. You consistently demand everyone put their trust in government programs, cannabis oil, psychoheresy, and anything and everything BUT Jesus Christ. You like to throw out the scare tactic of "Sure you can trust in God, but what if it doesn't work? What about those whom God lets down?" You seem bent on poisoning everyone's faith in God.
Hey, we get it. You absolutely do NOT want society to obey God, live for God, follow God, or follow the Bible. Cool. Others do. Including Jesus. So enjoy your life while you can. I've got literally three times as many children as you have, and the adult ones are Bible believing, antivaccine, homeschooled, theonomic apostolic believers currently positioning themselves to get married and build large, Bible believing, theonomic, homeschooling, antivax apostolic families.
So in twenty years you and your personal opinions will be utterly and totally irrelevant.
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09-04-2018, 07:40 PM
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen
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I and my family live theonomically to the best of our ability. Unlike the leftist socialists like yourself, we do not demand that other people pay our way through life and shield us from reality.
But once again, your entire message here on this forum can be summed in one short statement: Jesus may get you to heaven, but Uncle Sam will take care of everything else here and now. You consistently demand everyone put their trust in government programs, cannabis oil, psychoheresy, and anything and everything BUT Jesus Christ. You like to throw out the scare tactic of "Sure you can trust in God, but what if it doesn't work? What about those whom God lets down?" You seem bent on poisoning everyone's faith in God.
Hey, we get it. You absolutely do NOT want society to obey God, live for God, follow God, or follow the Bible. Cool. Others do. Including Jesus. So enjoy your life while you can. I've got literally three times as many children as you have, and the adult ones are Bible believing, antivaccine, homeschooled, theonomic apostolic believers currently positioning themselves to get married and build large, Bible believing, theonomic, homeschooling, antivax apostolic families.
So in twenty years you and your personal opinions will be utterly and totally irrelevant. 
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If we just let the most left leaning person in the world continue to talk they will eventually talk everyone to the right.
Dont like theocracy in any condition other than the millennial, but I like socialist SJW types even less.
We have been down this road, and nobody is talking me out of my minimalist/voulenteerist/libertarian position.
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09-05-2018, 01:52 AM
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen
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If we just let the most left leaning person in the world continue to talk they will eventually talk everyone to the right.
Dont like theocracy in any condition other than the millennial, but I like socialist SJW types even less.
We have been down this road, and nobody is talking me out of my minimalist/voulenteerist/libertarian position.
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Recently I have been looking more deeply into the entire "social compact theory". And I have concluded it is pure humanistic hogwash. What's interesting is it seems to be the basis for BOTH socialism and "libertarianism".
Rather than adhering to some "ism", perhaps you would consider looking into the Biblical concept of "the Kingdom" and what that really entails, and how it applies to social structures. Unless you believe that "minimalist/volunteerist/libertarianism" is what the Bible teaches is the Divinely ordained and preferred form of society that Christians are to seek?
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09-05-2018, 05:08 AM
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Recently I have been looking more deeply into the entire "social compact theory". And I have concluded it is pure humanistic hogwash. What's interesting is it seems to be the basis for BOTH socialism and "libertarianism".
Rather than adhering to some "ism", perhaps you would consider looking into the Biblical concept of "the Kingdom" and what that really entails, and how it applies to social structures. Unless you believe that "minimalist/volunteerist/libertarianism" is what the Bible teaches is the Divinely ordained and preferred form of society that Christians are to seek?
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Our society not only accommodates sin, but promotes it, glorifies and protects it, therefore people can't stomach the idea of penalizing it.
True liberty would be to live in a society where murder, rape, sodomy, kidnapping, child trafficking were very rare.
The priests who rape children while being protected at the highest level decade after decade would be deterred by wanting to avoid capital punishment.
There would be no young children coming out as gay and killing themselves because they would not be brain washed by a society promoting sin.
if we keep going to the way we are going Christianity is going to be outlawed because the bible will be labeled *hate speech*
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