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Old 09-07-2018, 10:12 AM
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen

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are upholding the principles of Life, Liberty, and private Property theonomic?

off the top of my head I would say that the bible:
*protects life
*liberty is based on obedience to God. A theonomic society is free in as far as people obey the bible and don't commit sins against God and each other.
*The bible protects property, theft demands restitution.

The very thought that people have rights came from the bible.

I agree with Alexis De Tocqueville that our Republic works as long as our nation is a Christian Nation.
The problem is that what you mean by "rights" and what Locke, Hobbes, Rousseau, and Jefferson meant by "rights" may not be quite the same thing, particularly as regards to the origin and mechanisms of those rights.

Where does the Bible say a person has inherent rights? Biblical rights are the right to obey God, and stem from Divinely imposed obligations. Right to property is not based on some abstract inherent sovereignty of man, but rather on 1) God's dispositions and grants of property stewardship to people, and 2) God's prohibitions against interference with that stewardship by others.

Man does not have unlimited license to do what he wants. And civic duty is not based in man's voluntary "social contract", but in God's imposition of moral and ethical obligations.
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen

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The problem is that what you mean by "rights" and what Locke, Hobbes, Rousseau, and Jefferson meant by "rights" may not be quite the same thing, particularly as regards to the origin and mechanisms of those rights.

Where does the Bible say a person has inherent rights? Biblical rights are the right to obey God, and stem from Divinely imposed obligations. Right to property is not based on some abstract inherent sovereignty of man, but rather on 1) God's dispositions and grants of property stewardship to people, and 2) God's prohibitions against interference with that stewardship by others.

Man does not have unlimited license to do what he wants. And civic duty is not based in man's voluntary "social contract", but in God's imposition of moral and ethical obligations.

Since we can not over throw the government, theonomy can only exist in the heart? The law is written in the heart by the Spirit.
and of course we study the bible to understand how to obey God's commandments.

https://distributarian.com/pdf%20Doc...w%20Theory.pdf

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Since we can not over throw the government, theonomy can only exist in the heart? The law is written in the heart by the Spirit.
and of course we study the bible to understand how to obey God's commandments.

https://distributarian.com/pdf%20Doc...w%20Theory.pdf
The Kingdom is planted in the heart and produces fruit (outward manifestation of the will of God) in the form of actions. Faith without works is dead.
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