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Old 09-08-2018, 04:05 PM
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Self government under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. That's the Kingdom, predicated upon the individual's relationship with Christ. No need to force our way of life on others. They choose if they desire to bow to human government, or self govern under Christ. We self govern under Christ. No earthly king or government. We govern our own lives, based on the Gospel. When earthly government clashes with our way, we resist peacefully. They can jail us, beat us, or even kill us. That's the cost.

When I say "earthly government", that includes so called "theonomic" models. Any government where men seek power over men.

The only true "theonomy" is one with the individual being ruled by the Holy Spirit Himself... in the midst of this earthly mess filled with governments designed to rule through coercion and force.

Christ will put these earthly governments down upon His return, and rule those glorified souls who submitted to His rule in this age.
Chris, what you are describing is earthly worldly governments. Christianity is the force that gave us civilization. Without Christianity we would all be living in mudhuts.
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Chris, what you are describing is earthly worldly governments. Christianity is the force that gave us civilization. Without Christianity we would all be living in mudhuts.
Yes, Christianity is the "force" behind many advancements in this world. I agree. But, it is also a spiritual kingdom transcendent of all earthly government.
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Yes, Christianity is the "force" behind many advancements in this world. I agree. But, it is also a spiritual kingdom transcendent of all earthly government.
So, you don't believe that Christianity is a spiritual kingdom?

Do you speak in tongues?
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So, you don't believe that Christianity is a spiritual kingdom?

Do you speak in tongues?
Evidently you need to read what I wrote again.
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Evidently you need to read what I wrote again.
Evidently you never answer simple questions.
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