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06-14-2007, 11:41 AM
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A church usually takes on the persona of the pastor. They emulate his actions, personality, and spirituality.
Folks will naturally put their pastor on a pedestal. IMO, a pastor should counter that with humility and grace.
When a pastor starts enjoying the pedestal too much, is when problems start happening!
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06-14-2007, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Pianoman
A church usually takes on the persona of the pastor. They emulate his actions, personality, and spirituality.
Folks will naturally put their pastor on a pedestal. IMO, a pastor should counter that with humility and grace.
When a pastor starts enjoying the pedestal too much, is when problems start happening!
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This is very true....also the Pastor's wife enjoying the Power pedestal can cause many problems...
There are some churches that love the Ministry...and some that worship the ministry... I've been in and seen both....
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06-14-2007, 11:55 AM
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A pastor should also HIGHLY ESTEEM the opinions of biblical scholars. There really has been too much, "All I need is God and the Bible" sort of talk from self-proclaimed preachers who spout out utter nonsense. This does not mean we accept everything a scholar produces to us, but it is wisdom to receive a multitude of counsellors.
One preacher spoke of Isaiah having preached to Sodom and Gomorrah, because he read this:
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Isa 1:9-11 KJV Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah. (10) Hear the word of the LORD, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah. (11) To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
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Sodom and Gomorrah rose and fell long before Isaiah was born, back in the days of Abraham! And a preacher mistook the reference above to refer to an idea that Isaiah actually preached in those cities. Had he researched the passage and observed some ideas from a good commentary or scholarly work, he would have realized how incorrect he was.
The idea that commentaries and references are nonsense is rife amongst many apostolic ministers, but is ridiculous in actuality. I send the motion that minister should use some good years in bible school.
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06-14-2007, 11:56 AM
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A pastor shoudl also HIGHLY ESTEEM the opinions of biblical scholars. There really has been too much, "All I need is God and the Bible" sort of talk from self-proclaimed preachers who spout out utter nonsense.
One preacher spoke of Isaiah having preached to Sodom and Gomorrah, because he read this:
Sodom and Gomorrah rose and fell long before Isaiah was born, back in the days of Abraham! And a preacher mistook the reference above to refer to an idea that Isaiah actually preached in those cities. Had he researched the passage and observed some ideas from a good commentary or scholarly work, he would have realized how incorrect he was.
The idea that commentaries and references are nonsense is rife amongst many apostolic ministers, but is ridiculous in actuality. I send the motion that minister should use some good years in bible school.
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I agree, as long as it is accredited.
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06-14-2007, 12:19 PM
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I agree, as long as it is accredited.
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I went to a little church basement bible school where we were drilled with following the Spirit. And the school was not accredited, but it was strong on promoting reality in the Spirit, being honest and full of integrity, which led me to personal studies including scholarly works by many. So it does not have to be accredited, I think.
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06-14-2007, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mfblume
I went to a little church basement bible school where we were drilled with following the Spirit. And the school was not accredited, but it was strong on promoting reality in the Spirit, being honest and full of integrity, which led me to personal studies including scholarly works by many. So it does not have to be accredited, I think.
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I wonder if there are many of these around anymore?
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