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11-06-2018, 03:17 AM
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Re: Brother Lee Stoneking's Preaching
Consider all the times Lee exhorted people, before he ever preached, to stand up, lift their hands, and praise and exalt the wonderful, matchless name of Jesus Christ.
Tens of thousands have obeyed that exhortation, and countless sessions of worship and adoration of the King of Kings has occurred, and countless breakthroughs and miracles, as well, that no one but the person who experienced them, will ever know about.
Anything that may get said after that exhortation is kind of meaningless to the person who received from the Lord.
And maybe you don't need that exhortation, or from him at least, to praise and exalt the wonderful, matchless name of Jesus and break out into a session of worship, but I've been places where he has preached, and there are always lots of folks there who are just barely hanging on, or who have never really grabbed hold to begin with, and standing up, lifting one's hands and surrendering themselves to the Lord in worship is the best thing that could ever happen to such people, and let's be honest, some people DO NEED the exhortation to come from an external source like Brother Lee, because their faith is low, and their joy is gone.
Look at the various prophets in Acts. It reads of them that their main task was to "strengthen the brethren". How then can a brother or sister be strengthened by the ministry of a prophet unless they are first weakened?
So, let the critique go, already. He's still your brother, a child of God, and he is the Lord's workmanship, and to critique him (or anyone else) is to offer a critique of the work the Lord is doing in, on, and through him, to get him to where God wants him to be.
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11-06-2018, 04:46 AM
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Re: Brother Lee Stoneking's Preaching
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Originally Posted by votivesoul
Consider all the times Lee exhorted people, before he ever preached, to stand up, lift their hands, and praise and exalt the wonderful, matchless name of Jesus Christ.
Tens of thousands have obeyed that exhortation, and countless sessions of worship and adoration of the King of Kings has occurred, and countless breakthroughs and miracles, as well, that no one but the person who experienced them, will ever know about.
Anything that may get said after that exhortation is kind of meaningless to the person who received from the Lord.
And maybe you don't need that exhortation, or from him at least, to praise and exalt the wonderful, matchless name of Jesus and break out into a session of worship, but I've been places where he has preached, and there are always lots of folks there who are just barely hanging on, or who have never really grabbed hold to begin with, and standing up, lifting one's hands and surrendering themselves to the Lord in worship is the best thing that could ever happen to such people, and let's be honest, some people DO NEED the exhortation to come from an external source like Brother Lee, because their faith is low, and their joy is gone.
Look at the various prophets in Acts. It reads of them that their main task was to "strengthen the brethren". How then can a brother or sister be strengthened by the ministry of a prophet unless they are first weakened?
So, let the critique go, already. He's still your brother, a child of God, and he is the Lord's workmanship, and to critique him (or anyone else) is to offer a critique of the work the Lord is doing in, on, and through him, to get him to where God wants him to be.
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11-06-2018, 06:00 AM
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Re: Brother Lee Stoneking's Preaching
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Originally Posted by votivesoul
Consider all the times Lee exhorted people, before he ever preached, to stand up, lift their hands, and praise and exalt the wonderful, matchless name of Jesus Christ.
Tens of thousands have obeyed that exhortation, and countless sessions of worship and adoration of the King of Kings has occurred, and countless breakthroughs and miracles, as well, that no one but the person who experienced them, will ever know about.
Anything that may get said after that exhortation is kind of meaningless to the person who received from the Lord.
And maybe you don't need that exhortation, or from him at least, to praise and exalt the wonderful, matchless name of Jesus and break out into a session of worship, but I've been places where he has preached, and there are always lots of folks there who are just barely hanging on, or who have never really grabbed hold to begin with, and standing up, lifting one's hands and surrendering themselves to the Lord in worship is the best thing that could ever happen to such people, and let's be honest, some people DO NEED the exhortation to come from an external source like Brother Lee, because their faith is low, and their joy is gone.
Look at the various prophets in Acts. It reads of them that their main task was to "strengthen the brethren". How then can a brother or sister be strengthened by the ministry of a prophet unless they are first weakened?
So, let the critique go, already. He's still your brother, a child of God, and he is the Lord's workmanship, and to critique him (or anyone else) is to offer a critique of the work the Lord is doing in, on, and through him, to get him to where God wants him to be.
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Great post
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11-06-2018, 06:16 AM
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Re: Brother Lee Stoneking's Preaching
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Originally Posted by votivesoul
Consider all the times Lee exhorted people, before he ever preached, to stand up, lift their hands, and praise and exalt the wonderful, matchless name of Jesus Christ.
Exhorting people doesnt validate the person doing the exhortation.
Tens of thousands have obeyed that exhortation, and countless sessions of worship and adoration of the King of Kings has occurred, and countless breakthroughs and miracles, as well, that no one but the person who experienced them, will ever know about.
Anything that may get said after that exhortation is kind of meaningless to the person who received from the Lord.
Anything said? "Like there angels that fly over my house and I can feel them." Tell me why these types of statements do not matter.
And maybe you don't need that exhortation, or from him at least, to praise and exalt the wonderful, matchless name of Jesus and break out into a session of worship, but I've been places where he has preached, and there are always lots of folks there who are just barely hanging on, or who have never really grabbed hold to begin with, and standing up, lifting one's hands and surrendering themselves to the Lord in worship is the best thing that could ever happen to such people, and let's be honest, some people DO NEED the exhortation to come from an external source like Brother Lee, because their faith is low, and their joy is gone.
Look at the various prophets in Acts. It reads of them that their main task was to "strengthen the brethren". How then can a brother or sister be strengthened by the ministry of a prophet unless they are first weakened?
So, let the critique go, already. He's still your brother, a child of God, and he is the Lord's workmanship, and to critique him (or anyone else) is to offer a critique of the work the Lord is doing in, on, and through him, to get him to where God wants him to be.
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Its called accountability, and not letting someone hype you up with crazy claims to get you to respond to emotion rather than God.
Some of LS preaching may be fine, but preachers dont have the luxury of "sometimes its in the book" and "sometimes its make believe"
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11-06-2018, 09:15 AM
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Re: Brother Lee Stoneking's Preaching
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Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness
Exhorting people doesn't validate the person doing the exhortation.
Its called accountability, and not letting someone hype you up with crazy claims to get you to respond to emotion rather than God.
Some of LS preaching may be fine, but preachers dont have the luxury of "sometimes its in the book" and "sometimes its make believe"
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Well, the good news is LS doesn't require your validation.
I'm glad that no story or news you've ever mentioned or posted has turned out to be false or untrue.
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11-06-2018, 09:26 AM
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Re: Brother Lee Stoneking's Preaching
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Originally Posted by n david
Well, the good news is LS doesn't require your validation.
I'm glad that no story or news you've ever mentioned or posted has turned out to be false or untrue.
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In all fairness surely you would agree that this is not the exception with LS but the rule. He hasn't had one or two stories over the years prove to be urban legend but many of them. There is a pattern of him preaching unsubstantiated stories as truth.
This is not a liberal vs conservative issue with me. It is one of integrity, honesty, and truth.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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11-06-2018, 09:36 AM
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Re: Brother Lee Stoneking's Preaching
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Originally Posted by CC1
In all fairness surely you would agree that this is not the exception with LS but the rule. He hasn't had one or two stories over the years prove to be urban legend but many of them. There is a pattern of him preaching unsubstantiated stories as truth.
This is not a liberal vs conservative issue with me. It is one of integrity, honesty, and truth.
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Miner's hearing voices from hell
Telescope sighting of cube in space coming towards earth
OBL wives new birth experience
What other stories has he told which have been untrue?
In all fairness, I would say most of the hate started with LS because of his status in the UPC and his stance on women's hair.
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11-06-2018, 09:33 AM
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Re: Brother Lee Stoneking's Preaching
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Originally Posted by n david
Well, the good news is LS doesn't require your validation.
I'm glad that no story or news you've ever mentioned or posted has turned out to be false or untrue.
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I dont preach stories I preach the Word of God. We must be careful what we say. More Word and less Angels.
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11-06-2018, 09:37 AM
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Re: Brother Lee Stoneking's Preaching
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Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness
I dont preach stories I preach the Word of God. We must be careful what we say. More Word and less Angels.
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More Word and less stories...
Jesus failed the bar you set there.
Congrats on being perfect!
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11-06-2018, 09:47 AM
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Re: Brother Lee Stoneking's Preaching
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More Word and less stories...
Jesus failed the bar you set there.
Congrats on being perfect! 
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Im not Jesus.
Paul said "Preach the word" Paul and Jesus were not at odds with one another. We are perfected by the word, begotten by the word, faith comes by hearing the word.
whats the argument here? whats your point? Im just not for make believe angel sightings and magic hair. Thats for whoever not just LS. I call it like I see it.
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