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03-10-2019, 03:18 PM
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Re: Cheerful giver.
Definition of FILTHY LUCRE
Money,especiallywhen gained in a dishonest or dishonorable way.
That's what a money tithe is.
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03-10-2019, 03:27 PM
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Re: Cheerful giver.
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My goodness aren't we testy.
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Which is translated Orange Man Bad. 
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03-10-2019, 03:32 PM
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Re: Cheerful giver.
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Definition of FILTHY LUCRE
Money,especiallywhen gained in a dishonest or dishonorable way.
That's what a money tithe is.
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Rudy, filthy lucre as understood in the New Testament is money gained by elders who are focused only on money. They wouldn't be considered honest ministers who accept tithes because they believe that tithing is God's plan for His church government. So, now that we got that out of the way, you posted you attend a pro tithe church. Is the "brother" behind the pulpit money hungry? Is he only focused on getting money from the congregants and it is his sole reason for doing what he is doing?
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03-10-2019, 03:47 PM
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Re: Cheerful giver.
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We don’t live off the land and our own animals ect... we live off money. That’s why sometimes even referred to as “ dough” or “ bread “. There food and animals were their money.
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Wrong. They had money.
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03-10-2019, 03:47 PM
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Re: Cheerful giver.
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Rudy, filthy lucre as understood in the New Testament is money gained by elders who are focused only on money. They wouldn't be considered honest ministers who accept tithes because they believe that tithing is God's plan for His church government. So, now that we got that out of the way, you posted you attend a pro tithe church. Is the "brother" behind the pulpit money hungry? Is he only focused on getting money from the congregants and it is his sole reason for doing what he is doing?
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Well, they are suppose to be students of the word. It's baffliing with all the information out there this evades them. If a lowly saint such as myself can figure it out surely a preacher can. I admit there are those who are unlearned on this issue. BUT it is becoming obvious there are many who just don't care.
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03-10-2019, 03:56 PM
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Re: Cheerful giver.
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Wrong. They had money.
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the issue to me is not whether or not they had money.. Let's find a command to tithe money.
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03-10-2019, 04:51 PM
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Re: Cheerful giver.
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Well, they are suppose to be students of the word.
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Rudy, so you attend a church with a preacher who isn't a student because he doesn't see what you see? So, right back at you. If you don't see something he sees you aren't a student of the word? 34,000 denominations and sects not counting other religions. That's a lot of opinions. Rudy you are being the janitor of a tithing church? Rudy, can't you see the dilemma? You guys beat the tin drum, use words like liar. But are emptying the waste paper baskets in the prayer room?
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It's baffliing with all the information out there this evades them.
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It baffles you? Why? There is a lot of information out there for a plethora of different topics. What do you want? You want people to COME to the knowledge of truth? Or, you just want people to do what you want them to do whether they understand the whole picture or not? They don't get it, they are with groups and fellowships that believe what they believe. They just don't see or understand what you see. Only way around that, is to do what you once posted. Go and be free among those of like precious doctrine. Start your own no tithe church, get the rest of the crew who believe like you and be happy.
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If a lowly saint such as myself can figure it out surely a preacher can.
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Good God from Zion!
Seriously?
I hate that religious self debasement.
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I admit there are those who are unlearned on this issue. BUT it is becoming obvious there are many who just don't care.
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Wow, great.
This is still according to your standards. Of how slow or fast one should "get it" Sincerity is the key, but people are at times sincerely wrong. But they are still sincere people. They aren't trying to win a debate. They just want Bible truth. People are classed into the don't care group just because we couldn't reach them. But in reality we just aren't their cup of tea. So they move on. But God is still at work. Again Rudy, we have more denominations, sects, and cults in this big blue world. Get your group together, teach on no tithing, become the United No Tithing Pentecostal Church International.
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03-10-2019, 04:52 PM
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Re: Cheerful giver.
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Rudy, filthy lucre as understood in the New Testament is money gained by elders who are focused only on money. They wouldn't be considered honest ministers who accept tithes because they believe that tithing is God's plan for His church government. So, now that we got that out of the way, you posted you attend a pro tithe church. Is the "brother" behind the pulpit money hungry? Is he only focused on getting money from the congregants and it is his sole reason for doing what he is doing? |
Rudy?
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03-10-2019, 04:58 PM
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Re: Cheerful giver.
nope
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03-10-2019, 05:11 PM
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Re: Cheerful giver.
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Then with that being said "tithing" cannot be defined as filthy lucre.
Since not everyone who believes in tithing is money hungry, focused on money more than souls. I have seen people blessed by their giving, whether it was ten percent, or a 100%. Jesus loves those who give willingly and cheerfully. So, stick to your original plan and get that group together. You are fishing for those of like precious belief systems. Being at the First Church of Tithe Checks won't git er done. Get ahold of Totemaster and build it, and they will come. Or does that only work for baseball? 
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