Cheerful giver.

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

Not sure who is measuring God's giving by or with money. You know all of our substance belongs to God, I see nothing wrong with financing the kingdom of God. It's not good to be greedy. To God be the glory our church just pledged last night to give an Evangelist $14,000 to help him and his family get a better RV to travel in.

now surely God will give back more than $14,000.



Why are we greedy? How do you measure that?

[Apostolic1ness]

Originally Posted by Rudy

now surely God will give back more than $14,000.



Why are we greedy? How do you measure that?

Not sure anyone is really looking for a r.o.i. in the form of cash or material gain.

The scripture says if we have the ability to help a brother in need and dont do it , its not a good thing in so many words.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

Not sure anyone is really looking for a r.o.i. in the form of cash or material gain.

The scripture says if we have the ability to help a brother in need and dont do it , its not a good thing in so many words.

You are correct sir. We agree on something.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Rudy

now surely God will give back more than $14,000.



Why are we greedy? How do you measure that?

Rudy, you know that when us simple folk read these sorts of posts, it looks like you are bitter? So, what's up? You did read, one, it wasn't a tithe, but that the church family just took up an offering for a minister to get back on the road? I myself, haven't a clue why you even introduced idea of greed. The evangelist has an RV with his family. I did notice that you give monetarily online? So, are you the janitor of the pro-tithe church as your offering to that congregation?

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Rudy, you know that when us simple folk read these sorts of posts, it looks like you are bitter? So, what's up? You did read, one, it wasn't a tithe, but that the church family just took up an offering for a minister to get back on the road? I myself, haven't a clue why you even introduced idea of greed. The evangelist has an RV with his family. I did notice that you give monetarily online? So, are you the janitor of the pro-tithe church as your offering to that congregation?

You know and i know God giving back or you can't out give God is always related to money given back.



And no, i don't consider my being the trash man an offering.. When I kill an animal then I might offer it up. notice i said might.

[Apostolic1ness]

Originally Posted by Rudy

You know and i know God giving back or you can't out give God is always related to money given back.



And no, i don't consider my being the trash man an offering.. When I kill an animal then I might offer it up. notice i said might.

I beg to differ on the "always related to money given back" statement. Around our place we teach a return of money is the least of what we should desire to "get back" there are so many other things more important that we have than a return of money.
Healthy kids, good family, food and shelter, God's hand on our lives, etc.

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

I beg to differ on the "always related to money given back" statement. Around our place we teach a return of money is the least of what we should desire to "get back" there are so many other things more important that we have than a return of money.
Healthy kids, good family, food and shelter, God's hand on our lives, etc.

There it is, so healthy kids, good family, even food and shelter? Give that money and shazaam look what God is doing for me!!



How much for healthy kids?

[Ehud]

Originally Posted by Rudy

There it is, so healthy kids, good family, even food and shelter? Give that money and shazaam look what God is doing for me!!



How much for healthy kids?

Good morning, Rudy!

One gives freely, yet grows all the richer; another withholds what he should give, and only suffers want. Whoever brings blessing will be enriched, and one who waters will himself be watered. -- Proverbs 11:24-25 (ESV)

Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you. -- Matthew 6:31-33 (ESV)

Is this not what our brother is saying? I know some will give the old "plant a seed, receive 100 fold" type speech, but it certainly doesn't appear to be what is being said by Apostolic1ness.

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by Ehud

Good morning, Rudy!

One gives freely, yet grows all the richer; another withholds what he should give, and only suffers want. Whoever brings blessing will be enriched, and none who waters will himself be watered. -- Proverbs 11:24-25 (ESV)

Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you. -- Matthew 6:31-33 (ESV)

Is this not what our brother is saying? I know some will give the old "plant a seed, receive 100 fold" type speech, but it certainly doesn't appear to be what is being said by Apostolic1ness.

Well lol, healthy kids or family? tying that into money?

thanks for the dialog.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Rudy

You know and i know God giving back or you can't out give God is always related to money given back.

So it applies to all other forms of giving but monetary?

Originally Posted by Rudy

And no, i don't consider my being the trash man an offering.. When I kill an animal then I might offer it up. notice i said might.

Rudy, ok, in the pro tithing church you attend do you give to the preacher?