Daniel's 70th week

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Ehud

I understand they are similarly described, but why does using common language necessarily mean it is the same event being described?

Think of it like this. When we want to prove the deity of Christ we go to Exodus 3 where God tells Moses I AM. Then we go to John 8 and find the exact wording where Jesus says 1 AM.

Then we may go to Isaiah 44 and find where YAH says I AM the first and the last. Then we go to Rev. 1:17 where Jesus says I AM the first and the last.

In doing this we are sure because of the EXACT wording that we have proved the deity of Christ.

So why would it be any different with this?

Jesus says he will COME and GATHER TOGETHER his elect in Matt. 24. Paul says to the Thessalonians in 2 Thess 2 they will find rest at THE COMING OF CHRIST AND OUR GATHERING TOGETHER to him.

The wording is EXACT.

Not to mention the context is the same. Jesus is telling us about the abomination of desolation. Paul is telling of the man of sin.

Jesus says he will gather together his elect. Paul says Jesus will gather together the saints. No difference between the two.

[Ehud]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Think of it like this. When we want to prove the deity of Christ we go to Exodus 3 where God tells Moses I AM. Then we go to John 8 and find the exact wording where Jesus says 1 AM.

Then we may go to Isaiah 44 and find where YAH says I AM the first and the last. Then we go to Rev. 1:17 where Jesus says I AM the first and the last.

In doing this we are sure because of the EXACT wording that we have proved the deity of Christ.

So why would it be any different with this?

Jesus says he will COME and GATHER TOGETHER his elect in Matt. 24. Paul says to the Thessalonians in 2 Thess 2 they will find rest at THE COMING OF CHRIST AND OUR GATHERING TOGETHER to him.

The wording is EXACT.

Not to mention the context is the same. Jesus is telling us about the abomination of desolation. Paul is telling of the man of sin.

Jesus says he will gather together his elect. Paul says Jesus will gather together the saints. No difference between the two.

Thank you for the reply; much appreciated!

[shag]

Michael, do u have Luke 21:20 in the first century siege of Jerusalem, or still in our future?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by shag

Michael, do u have Luke 21:20 in the first century siege of Jerusalem, or still in our future?

I believe it is a repeating or dual prophecy. So it was but it will be.

If it was ONLY for the destruction of Jerusalem in the first century then I'm wondering what happened to the resurrection that was supposed to follow the tribulation?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I believe it is a repeating or dual prophecy. So it was but it will be.

If it was ONLY for the destruction of Jerusalem in the first century then I'm wondering what happened to the resurrection that was supposed to follow the tribulation?

I do not believe in dual prophecies where both are fulfilled in the new covenant. I see no foundation for such a thought by way of plain example.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I do not believe in dual prophecies where both are fulfilled in the new covenant. I see no foundation for such a thought by way of plain example.

The most stunning blow against preterism is that NO RESURRECTION followed the tribulation of 70ad.