Planned Destruction of Civilisation

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Do you ever deal with what is posted to you?
Or do you simply make it a practice to skim my post.
Read what I posted and deal with its content.
Thank you.

I said the Apostles taught to obey Jesus and when possible to obey the state. You seem to be grasping to find something, anything to disagree with.

[Ehud]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I said the Apostles taught to obey Jesus and when possible to obey the state. You seem to be grasping to find something, anything to disagree with.

I doubt his issue is reading comprehension, but rather how you have phrased your position. I don't think you would get any argument about not bowing to idols if the state said to do so, but your wording implies the apostles taught some watered down version of obeying civil authorities. I, too, can think of no place this occurred and would love to see an example because I have no doubt I could be missing something.

Sometimes we take for granted that we are 'obviously not talking about that' -- whatever that may be -- but to those skimming and reviewing your post, I can see how one could misunderstand what you have said. "And when possible" could mean many different things to many different people.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Ehud

I doubt his issue is reading comprehension, but rather how you have phrased your position. I don't think you would get any argument about not bowing to idols if the state said to do so, but your wording implies the apostles taught some watered down version of obeying civil authorities. I, too, can think of no place this occurred and would love to see an example because I have no doubt I could be missing something.

Sometimes we take for granted that we are 'obviously not talking about that' -- whatever that may be -- but to those skimming and reviewing your post, I can see how one could misunderstand what you have said. "And when possible" could mean many different things to many different people.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I said the Apostles taught to obey Jesus and when possible to obey the state. You seem to be grasping to find something, anything to disagree with.

No Mike, you aren't the victim, so don't don the sack cloth.
The idea of obey if possible isn't ever presented in the scripture. What we are to do is spelled out quite nicely in these following scriptures Proverbs 8:15, Proverbs 24:21, Daniel 2:21, Daniel 4:17, John 19:11, Romans 13:1, 1 Timothy 2:2, Titus 3:1, and 1 Peter 2:13. The Apostle Paul was not only a good within the law of Moses, but he was also a good Roman. He used the Roman law to enable him to travel under protection from the Judeans who wanted to kill him. There isn't anything about submit to higher powers as much as possible. If we are going to go rounds and rounds with a brother over whether Matthew 28:19 in its original form is legit. Why would I mot ask you to clarify yourself on this?