Where have I ever said you are wrong??? My point is that if you chafe and squirm under the authority that you voluntarily placed yourself under why spend so much energy that does you no good? Plus you sign something that you may not fully believe. (Notice I said 'may')
Uhoh... if this is Presbyterian thinking I may well be a Presbyterian!
I've long maintained that if I didn't agree with an organization that I simply wouldn't be a part of it. Yes, I have friends that are UPC but I also have some that aren't.
I don't make a living being UPC. I survive by the grace of God because I'm a Man of God. I suspect you do too.
It has long strained my understanding that people (I have no clue if your are or aren't one of them) that continually blast the organization and disagree with so much of what it stands for would ever want to stay in it.
To change it? There are enough flavors of Pentecost out there they could find something more akin to their beliefs in a lot of places.
To keep fellowship? Why seek fellowship with those you vehemently disagree with?
To keep a Church? Disaffiliation is easy enough to do... if even needed as many are not affiliated.
If I disagreed with so much of what it stood for I would find another group and I surely wouldn't sign the, what was it called... ? The 'infernal' statement?
I guess my brand of integrity simply wouldn't allow it.
I've long maintained that if I didn't agree with an organization that I simply wouldn't be a part of it. Yes, I have friends that are UPC but I also have some that aren't.
I don't make a living being UPC. I survive by the grace of God because I'm a Man of God. I suspect you do too.
It has long strained my understanding that people (I have no clue if your are or aren't one of them) that continually blast the organization and disagree with so much of what it stands for would ever want to stay in it.
To change it? There are enough flavors of Pentecost out there they could find something more akin to their beliefs in a lot of places.
To keep fellowship? Why seek fellowship with those you vehemently disagree with?
To keep a Church? Disaffiliation is easy enough to do... if even needed as many are not affiliated.
If I disagreed with so much of what it stood for I would find another group and I surely wouldn't sign the, what was it called... ? The 'infernal' statement?
I guess my brand of integrity simply wouldn't allow it.
Steadfast... according to your other post on another Thread you seem to be a moving Target anyways... either your favored or your blasted...
I've long maintained that if I didn't agree with an organization that I simply wouldn't be a part of it. Yes, I have friends that are UPC but I also have some that aren't.
I don't make a living being UPC. I survive by the grace of God because I'm a Man of God. I suspect you do too.
It has long strained my understanding that people (I have no clue if your are or aren't one of them) that continually blast the organization and disagree with so much of what it stands for would ever want to stay in it.
To change it? There are enough flavors of Pentecost out there they could find something more akin to their beliefs in a lot of places.
To keep fellowship? Why seek fellowship with those you vehemently disagree with?
To keep a Church? Disaffiliation is easy enough to do... if even needed as many are not affiliated.
If I disagreed with so much of what it stood for I would find another group and I surely wouldn't sign the, what was it called... ? The 'infernal' statement?
I guess my brand of integrity simply wouldn't allow it.
here is my problem. which part of the UPCI are you talking about disagreeing with? the 50.1% that dont want to have anything to do with Television or the 49.9% that want to use TV as a too for evangelism and outreach?
See here is the problem. guys like PP and I, probably dont agree with the California Ultra Con on the reasons to pour milk over cereal, but we are almost in lock step with the Louisiana Liberal....both are UPCI...Which side do we have to agree with to stay? With great respect, it aint quite so easy Brother Steadfast...
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here is my problem. which part of the UPCI are you talking about disagreeing with? the 50.1% that dont want to have anything to do with Television or the 49.9% that want to use TV as a too for evangelism and outreach?
See here is the problem. guys like PP and I, probably dont agree with the California Ultra Con on the reasons to pour milk over cereal, but we are almost in lock step with the Louisiana Liberal....both are UPCI...Which side do we have to agree with to stay? With great respect, it aint quite so easy Brother Steadfast...
Brother.. California is a wild land where men make their own laws... so using the Western District as a fellowship is somewhat a misnomer...