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05-19-2019, 08:49 PM
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Re: Former AFF Member's New Book
I would hope that rather than attack people like this we could show some compassion. No circumstance excuses a person being away from God but you also can't stick your head in the sand and say that circumstances don't affect people.
When this woman's family fell apart she was a young girl at a very impressionable age. I am betting her childhood fears of the tribulation, hell, etc were magnified when her father fell, parents divorced, and her father eventually died of AIDS.
To just trash her is not christian at all. She needs prayer and good examples of Christ like behavior. The posts on this thread are why I don't spend near as much time here as I did years ago. It is discouraging to see just how spiteful and mean people can be. We should not stoop to the behavior of those who have ill will against us or the church.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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05-19-2019, 09:03 PM
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Re: Former AFF Member's New Book
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Originally Posted by CC1
To just trash her is not christian at all. She needs prayer and good examples of Christ like behavior. The posts on this thread are why I don't spend near as much time here as I did years ago. It is discouraging to see just how spiteful and mean people can be. We should not stoop to the behavior of those who have ill will against us or the church.
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Good thing she isn't an ultracon pastor and this isn't NFCF. Right?
Bro, you know as well as I that she had good examples growing up. She wasn't raised in a cloister on a mountain. She was in the UPC, a plethora of the good, bad, and the ugly. By all means put her on the prayer list, but she is an old woman now, she is not a child. You don't spend time here because of my posting? You own the forum, you want an echo instead of a voice, then you can solve that with one click.
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05-21-2019, 08:33 PM
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Re: Former AFF Member's New Book
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Good thing she isn't an ultracon pastor and this isn't NFCF. Right?
Bro, you know as well as I that she had good examples growing up. She wasn't raised in a cloister on a mountain. She was in the UPC, a plethora of the good, bad, and the ugly. By all means put her on the prayer list, but she is an old woman now, she is not a child. You don't spend time here because of my posting? You own the forum, you want an echo instead of a voice, then you can solve that with one click.
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I have no ownership in this forum and never have.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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05-21-2019, 09:57 PM
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Re: Former AFF Member's New Book
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I have no ownership in this forum and never have.
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Well, welcome back, good to see you reading posts 
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
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05-21-2019, 10:34 PM
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Re: Former AFF Member's New Book
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Well, welcome back, good to see you reading posts |
Oh I read a lot more than I post.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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05-20-2019, 09:52 AM
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Re: Former AFF Member's New Book
Have there been posts deleted from this thread? I don't think anyone would disagree that this individual needs prayer, but I certainly don't see anyone trashing her either.
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