UPC, ALJC, PAW, etc.

[Apostolic1ness]

Originally Posted by n david

Most pastors, even those who aren't policing people's private lives, preach against sin.


You're preaching to the choir here! I hate seeing a messy platform. Speaker, instrument and microphone wires running all over the place. Least you can do is get some fake plants and trees to hide things.

Thats not what I meant by a "clean"platform
Proper hygiene is very important. Ministers should always carry a small pack of Altoids in their pocket so they can pop one in their mouth before praying with someone. I cannot stand a minister getting right up in my face with bad breath.

Thats not what I mean by "clean" leadership
Amen!


Amen!


Would to God it was real, Biblical holiness -- not the American Apostolic church dress version. So many Oneness Apostolic churches around the world have varying interpretations of what "holiness standards" are. The UPC in India allows women to wear pants because "it's their culture." But women in the US are splitting hell open for doing the same. Here in the USA, most churches allow black and hispanic men to wear facial hair because "it's their culture." But a white man can't do the same. Some churches are against short sleeve shirts on men. Some believe women must wear hose and their hair up. Some are against colored/print dress shirts on men. Some against rings, tie tacks/bars, etc.

Yet, we all agree on the oneness of the Godhead and the New Birth plan of salvation. You won't find UPC in one area believe one thing about the Godhead and another believe something else. You won't find ALJC in one area believe the New Birth and another ALJC believe something else.

It's only the extra stuff with which we find so much variance and different beliefs.

IMHO, stop majoring on the minors and start preaching the Gospel. You can't legislate holiness or Godliness. That's a work of God in the heart.

Thus saith and Amen.


Whose expectations?

the Pastor's expectations for leadership based on the bible

[n david]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

Thats not what I meant by a "clean"platform

Thats not what I mean by "clean" leadership

I know that's not really what you meant. I believe I know what you mean by clean leadership, but what's a clean platform?

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

the Pastor's expectations for leadership based on the bible

In many cases, I've found the Pastor's expectations include things which the Pastor themselves admit are not in the Bible, but are matters of personal preference.

I previously attended a church within the last year and the Pastor told me he couldn't point to the Bible or show the Bible being against facial hair, but his preference was that a man who wanted to be in leadership or used on the platform be clean shaven.

I love the Pastor and that church. Even though I'm not attending there today, I love them and won't say a bad word against them. I just simply don't agree.