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[Ehud]

Originally Posted by n david

I believe these men being full of the HG and faith and being given to prayer and the word was more important to the Apostles than their newness in the faith.

Absolutely. My personal opinion is that the waiting period is more for the congregation to get to know them than anything. If they don’t have the things you mentioned, they could be there a decade and shouldn’t be in leadership.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Ehud

Absolutely. My personal opinion is that the waiting period is more for the congregation to get to know them than anything. If they don’t have the things you mentioned, they could be there a decade and shouldn’t be in leadership.

This is true.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Ehud

Absolutely. My personal opinion is that the waiting period is more for the congregation to get to know them than anything. If they don’t have the things you mentioned, they could be there a decade and shouldn’t be in leadership.

So the verse says they were full of the HG -- that doesn't take a seasoned saint to obtain.

The verse also says full of wisdom. How long does it take to obtain wisdom? Can a new convert, even someone saved 6 months or a year, be full of wisdom?

I mean, I've been in church all my life and have found myself more than a few times lacking wisdom in certain situations.

[Ehud]

Originally Posted by n david

So the verse says they were full of the HG -- that doesn't take a seasoned saint to obtain.

The verse also says full of wisdom. How long does it take to obtain wisdom? Can a new convert, even someone saved 6 months or a year, be full of wisdom?

I mean, I've been in church all my life and have found myself more than a few times lacking wisdom in certain situations.

Very good questions. Perhaps that is where the fruit should be emphasized and time frames viewed as minimums? As you said earlier, the role being filled must come into play as well. It’s hard to imagine a new convert should be quickly trusted with a teaching role.