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Old 06-06-2019, 11:11 AM
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God is greater than time, and greater than our grief and sorrows. God shall wipe away all tears from our eyes. We shall be healed, made whole, and be blessed ("happy") throughout the ages of the ages.

Sure, god is greater than time, grief and sorrow.

Revelations 21:5 reads, He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" Then he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."

Understanding God will remove death, pain, sorrow, etc., could it be possible that he will erase certain memories that would cause sorrow? Yes, it's possible. Is it possible that God will remove certain emotions from us? That's possible too. When god created Adam and his wife, they were both naked, and they felt no shame, and they were whole. There was no emotion of shame present. Being made whole might mean certain memories being erased or emotions being deleted.




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First of all, our destiny isn't heaven, it is eternity with God here on earth. But I understand what your saying.
I'm sure you understood what I was indicating.


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You seem to be cheapening the overcoming power of God's love, and of His comfort. If God can't make you happy unless some loved one is with you, then I am afraid you are likely not going to make it.
I don't believe I'm cheapening the power of god. Something must occur to remove grief. Remember, Adam and Eve felt no shame while naked. They didn't posses that emotion until after the fall. Prior to that they were "whole." I wonder what other emotions they didn't posses while "whole." Is it possible certain emotions will be removed from us to forget grief and sorrow, yes.




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Jesus said if we do not hate mother, father, wife, husband, sister, brother, son, daughter, yea and our own life also, we cannot be His disciple. What does that mean to you? Sounds to me like it means He has to be our number one priority, that if everyone on earth rejected Him we would still follow and live Him, that if following Him means leaving our closest friends and family behind then we weep, and then pull up our big boy pants and move on.
Jesus is my number one priority, and will always be chosen above any family member. It's His will above my own, even if it means forsaking my family. However, that doesn't negate the fact that I have parents and siblings that need god. The father, when seeing his son a far off (prodigal son), had compassion (concern for his sufferings) for his son, ran to him, hugged and kissed him. It seems like the father never pulled his big boy pants up after his son left for a distant country.



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Quite a few folks actually worship friends and family, with God just as a means to an end, instead of Him being the GOAL. Quite a few folks will find themselves lost because Jesus can't make them happy unless some demsnd of theirs is met.

This isnt about being nonchalant towards loved ones. It about proper perspective. "Let the dead bury their own dead". David wept and grieved for his dying child. When the child died, he wept no more. Why is that?
I think David taught us a great lesson. David fasted and cried to change god's mind about letting his baby live. If we're not constantly fasting and crying our to god for out loved ones, friends, and strangers, do we really care about anyone else beside ourselves? If God's willing that none should perish, why should I pull up my 42 waist pants and move on? Again, this is beside the point.

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