To Beard or Not to Beard, That is The Question

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by diakonos

So the people need a weekly or monthly reminder? So they’re doing it out of peer pressure?

I’m sorry I didn’t realize “ before long “ was a specific time period. However we can look at moses up on the mountain and see how long it took them if you want to get technical.

[Evang.Benincasa]

I have never ever heard anyone say it was a sin to have a beard.

But what about painted finger nails on men?

Or guys wearing mascara and lipstick?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Down here in Broward County Florida guys with black or yellow painted fingernails are not uncommon. Also Emo, Goth wear black fingernails, and there are Emo, and Goth Christian groups. Mascara, lipstick, fingernail paint. So, cool? Not cool? Let'em up on your church platform? Let them preach a sweet love message to your youth group?

[Antipas]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Down here in Broward County Florida guys with black or yellow painted fingernails are not uncommon. Also Emo, Goth wear black fingernails, and there are Emo, and Goth Christian groups. Mascara, lipstick, fingernail paint. So, cool? Not cool? Let'em up on your church platform? Let them preach a sweet love message to your youth group?

Not cool. Platform? Sounds like they are doing just fine right where ever they are. Let them stay there. I don't see how any truly born again individual could continue on in those subcultures. There's more to Goth and Emo than just style of attire and outward appearance. Those subcultures have some very vile undertones. At least, that's what I feel spiritually when I contemplate it. And I believe there's enough Word to preach against it. But... those are my convictions.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by Antipas

Not cool. Platform? Sounds like they are doing just fine right where ever they are. Let them stay there. I don't see how any truly born again individual could continue on in those subcultures. There's more to Goth and Emo than just style of attire and outward appearance. Those subcultures have some very vile undertones. At least, that's what I feel spiritually when I contemplate it. And I believe there's enough Word to preach against it. But... those are my convictions.

Please share the Bible that is against this. I think it’s just your opinion and personal conviction.

[JamesGlen]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I have never ever heard anyone say it was a sin to have a beard.



But what about painted finger nails on men?

Or guys wearing mascara and lipstick?

(Beards) You’ve heard it called rebellion, we all have, 20+ years ago...and rebellion is a sin as witchcraft, same verse they use I believe, they just don’t finish it...so really, what’s the difference...rebellion=sin

Maybe preach against named biblical sin, (that’s what Paul did).

What else are these fags(oops, my carnality got the better of me there) doing in their heart and/or mind that’s sin, that makes them want to paint their body? I would think there is a bigger underlying issue, that the Bible condemns as sin.

Maybe the same could be said of women wearing that mess though....

I guess if we are going to have unbiblical platforms and pulpits in buildings that we unbiblically call churches, we can have unbiblical requirements to use them?

(FTR, guys(by birth) that wear that dung make me want to throw up my lunch).

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by JamesGlen

(Beards) You’ve heard it called rebellion, we all have, 20+ years ago...and rebellion is a sin as witchcraft, same verse they use I believe, they just don’t finish it...so really, what’s the difference...rebellion=sin

No one ever told me that it was rebellion. No one ever told me it was sin. I never heard a beard called rebellion. Heard the hippy thing, and business attire look of leadership. But nothing on rebellion.

Originally Posted by JamesGlen

Maybe preach against named biblical sin, (that’s what Paul did).

Where did Paul preach against mascara on men? Painted fingernails on men?
I think there is a lot of picking and choosing even amongst liberals. In the push to be "Biblical" a lot gets blurred when everyone wants to be nicer than Jesus at the expense of all involved.

Originally Posted by JamesGlen

What else are these fags(couldn’t resist) doing in their heart and/or mind that’s sin, that makes them want to paint their body? I would think there is a bigger underlying issue, that the Bible condemns as sin.

Well, isn't that the argument on the beard that I see being posted here? That the claim is being made that the whiskers and cookie dusters have the same motive? Again, Paul didn't preach against men dying their hair pink and blonde? Men with painted fingernails are heterosexuals and would break your jaw for calling them fags. One guy down at home depot has black painted fingernails, he has a wife and children. But, when we blur lines then something logically has to come through. But alas, balance rarely makes its way into a religious discussion.

Originally Posted by JamesGlen

I guess if we are going to have unbiblical platforms and pulpits, we can have unbiblical requirements to use them?

Then get ready for the pastor with blonde and blue hair, painted yellow fingernails, toenails, with Nike sandals on the platform.

Have fun kids at your local churches.

[JamesGlen]

I follow your point, EB, so what exactly are u proposing, that overseers should be able to preach their personal convictions?

[loran adkins]

Originally Posted by JamesGlen

I follow your point, EB, so what exactly are u proposing, that overseers should be able to preach their personal convictions?

Talk about blurred lines and all that. I contend that even most of what has been called bible standards are nothing but personal convictions. But preachers have been able to blur, scriptures so it sounds like they are preaching bible. Much like the facial hair question. I have actually heard a preacher preach using 1 Corinthians 11 to preach against facial hair. And to some that see it his way, they would believe it is bible.

You can argue and debate it all you want, but to someone that sees things a certain way they are more likely to keep that way of thinking unless something happens in their life that alters there way of thinking.

Even Jesus did not deal with specifics as much as with the spirit behind the way of thinking.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by JamesGlen

I follow your point, EB, so what exactly are u proposing, that overseers should be able to preach their personal convictions?

I’m proposing that we be somewhat consistent in our bias.
You brought up Paul, so there are items which seem “faggoty” you had to say it. But Paul never touched top, side, or bottom of it. But I live in a major city in the United States where far out issues are normal.