When your own wife and kids call you, Pastor

[Apostolic1ness]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

I had one pastor tell me he'd rather have his kids think of him as their pastor than their dad. I was shocked.

I have never enjoyed being called "pastor." I much prefer "Brother" being used before my name. I see it this way:

I introduce my self by the name "Tom Burk" because that's who I am.

My parents called me "son" because that's who I am.

My wife introduces me as "Husband" because that's who I am.

My kids call me "Dad" because that's who I am.

But "Pastor" is not who I am--it's what I do.

So, to me, calling a person "pastor" is like calling others in the church names like "housewife." "Fireman," "waitress," store clerk," retiree," or whatever else they do. Such names are titles or descriptions of what they do, not names of who they are.

IMHO If your "what" doesn't become your "who" in God's kingdom then your "what" is not subject to "who" God called you to be.

Dad is what you became when you had kids.
Husband is what you became when you got married.
If these titles became a "who" based on certain conditions, then Pastor is "who" you became based on the same premise.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

IMHO If your "what" doesn't become your "who" in God's kingdom then your "what" is not subject to "who" God called you to be.

Dad is what you became when you had kids.
Husband is what you became when you got married.
If these titles became a "who" based on certain conditions, then Pastor is "who" you became based on the same premise.

I agree. Don’t see the logic of the difference in the “ dad “ and “pastor” example.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

IMHO If your "what" doesn't become your "who" in God's kingdom then your "what" is not subject to "who" God called you to be.

Dad is what you became when you had kids.
Husband is what you became when you got married.
If these titles became a "who" based on certain conditions, then Pastor is "who" you became based on the same premise.

The difference is, becoming a fireman doesn't mean you are thereafter called "fireman."

Being a dad is not the same. In most cultures, dad, or some variation of dad, is a name commonly used to address your dad. But I've yet heard a child call their dad, "fireman." Or their mom, "housewife."

See the difference?

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

The difference is, becoming a fireman doesn't mean you are thereafter called "fireman."

Being a dad is not the same. In most cultures, dad, or some variation of dad, is a name commonly used to address your dad. But I've yet heard a child call their dad, "fireman." Or their mom, "housewife."

See the difference?

I don’t see the difference.... so basically to you it’s more of an occupation? Clock in and out? My pastor is always my pastor even if we are on the fishing boat but a firefighter clocks in and out. If I meet the President I will will call him president trump. We are not on the same level. A god called man deserves more respect then a president.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

I don’t see the difference.... so basically to you it’s more of an occupation? Clock in and out? My pastor is always my pastor even if we are on the fishing boat but a firefighter clocks in and out. If I meet the President I will will call him president trump. We are not on the same level. A god called man deserves more respect then a president.

You don't see the difference?

How many children do you know that calls their parents by the name of what they do for a living?

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

I don’t see the difference.... so basically to you it’s more of an occupation? Clock in and out? My pastor is always my pastor even if we are on the fishing boat but a firefighter clocks in and out. If I meet the President I will will call him president trump. We are not on the same level. A god called man deserves more respect then a president.

What about parents? How many of them do you know that call their children by the name of what they do?

Mom: "Here's my son, 'Newspaper Boy.'"
Dad: "Here's my daughter, 'Babysitter.'"

I've never met such a parent. Have you?

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

What about parents? How many of them do you know that call their children by the name of what they do?

Mom: "Here's my son, 'Newspaper Boy.'"
Dad: "Here's my daughter, 'Babysitter.'"

I've never met such a parent. Have you?

Actually you are the one that said “ dad “ is who you are.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

Actually you are the one that said “ dad “ is who you are.

You just like to be contentious, don't you?

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

You just like to be contentious, don't you?

Well it would be pretty boring if I wasn’t icecream

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

You just like to be contentious, don't you?

Well it would be pretty boring if I wasn’t lol