Be Perfect Be Pure

[Michael The Disciple]

Costeon

Just embrace the fact that your view demands that any sin brings condemnation and a person remains in that state until he repents.

I embrace that now.

[Costeon]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I embrace that now.

I really respect this, Michael. I know we don't agree overall, but I admire your approach and willingness to thoroughly think through your position.

Thank you for this discussion.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Costeon

I really respect this, Michael. I know we don't agree overall, but I admire your approach and willingness to thoroughly think through your position.

Thank you for this discussion.

When I said I embrace that now, I meant thats what I embrace already. Not sure if that was clear to you.

[Costeon]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

When I said I embrace that now, I meant thats what I embrace already. Not sure if that was clear to you.

I had been urging you to be thoroughly consistent and embrace the view that someone is immediately lost when he sins rather than to continue teaching that someone merely loses his perfection but not his salvation when he sins at all. So when you said that you now embrace that view, it sounded like you were saying that you had now embraced the view that someone is immediately lost when he sins. I wish that was the case; teaching this losing-perfection-but-still-saved view is incompatible with your overall view of perfection.