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Originally Posted by Costeon
Thank you for the straightforward answer. I just wanted to make sure I definitely understood your view. Now I think I do. You are saved as long as you perfectly obey. You are lost the moment you do not perfectly obey--say you have a sinful thought toward someone here on AFF :-)--and remain lost until you repent. Your salvation is entirely based on your efforts at and success in obeying. This is not an attack on your view or disparaging it. I'm just trying to state it accurately.
What I think I am confused about now is that it seemed you were disagreeing with Michael at the beginning of this thread, but it seems his view of perfection and your view of maturity are identical.
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Not identical, because I see the Apostle explains three groups children, young men, and elders. There is room for growth. Yet your position is still based on your own personal behavior in your religious experience. Bible is presented to you that is very clear to anyone. Yet it is never actually explained by you. You just give me your personal life experience in your religious walk. It’s like this, not saying this is you, yet if a Christian husband lusts after other women, and has done this his whole time in church. He sets that as a standard issue for every guy in the church. Yet, that isn’t factually correct. The whole Calvinist sinful thought popping up in your head argument can’t be broad brushed across everyone. Because even in the secular world it isn’t so. My atheist father believed that all religious people were mental cripples. The Calvinist “sinful thought” argument is what caused him to believe that way. My father pointed out that if these so called pious individuals had thoughts to rape your sister from time to time? Then they were hypocrites, who just donned the saffron robes to be seen of men. But my dad thought that of everyone who lit a candle, or carried religious parchment. Calvinism just did an amazing job in solidifying my father’s view that Christians were hypocrites. But to answer you, how you think is actually who you really are. It isn’t in front of us where you need to perform. It is behind or backs where we need to trust you. God is invisible, we can’t see Him. But while the pagan understood that, he also had an image to worry about. Idols, all around, angry, mean looking idols. Burned into his mind. So while he behaved himself to some degree, he really straightened up when an idol was around. We don’t worship idols. Our God is alive, and when we don’t believe that our thoughts follow accordingly. Who you are in the dark is really the real you.
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