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Old 07-27-2019, 02:30 PM
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Re: Tongues- A sign or THE sign Of Spirit Infillin

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A closer look into your statement here: “no longer lacking”: And how/when did he cease from “lacking”:

Acts 10:34 Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism 35 but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.

This is Peters enlightenment that God accepts ALL those who fear him and do right, to receive His salvational gospel.

So the question is, when in Acts 10 did Cornelius receive the new birth experience spoken of by Jesus to Nicodemus, in John 3?


( Acts 11:15...Send to Joppa for Simon who is called Peter. 14 He will bring you a message through which you and all your household will be saved.


So then, Peter spoke words that would save Cornelius and all his house.
And Cornelius was born again.

So the 2 questions I must answer are :

What all were Peters words of salvation?
What happened that Cornelius was born again?
When in Acts 10... ?

I think a better question may be WHY in Acts 10...

And the he answer should be, Because Cornelius received the Gospel of Jesus and was filled with the Holy Ghost. He became a Christian and confessed the truth of Jesus Christ - how he being a perfect man had died and was resurrected on our behalf.

Naturally - it also included the things that new Christian do - Namely water baptism and establishing full identity with the body of Christ.

In this case Cornelius even miraculously spoke in tongues.
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Re: Tongues- A sign or THE sign Of Spirit Infillin

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When in Acts 10... ?

I think a better is WHY in Acts 10...

And the he answer should be, Because Cornelius received the Gospel of Jesus and was filled with the Holy Ghost. He became a Christian and confessed the truth of Jesus Christ - how he being a perfect man had died and was resurrected on our behalf.

Naturally - it also included the things that new Christian do - Namely water baptism and establishing full identity with the body of Christ.

In this case Cornelius even miraculously spoke in tongues.
Is there any case where someone received and any other sign followed?
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Is there any case where someone received and any other sign followed?
The vast majority of those recorded as being converted, there is no mention of tongues. Is a sign something we should look for?
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The vast majority of those recorded as being converted, there is no mention of tongues. Is a sign something we should look for?
Also in the vast majority of the recorded conversions there is no mention of them receiving the Holy Spirit. Yet Paul said "if any man have not the Spirit of Christ he is none of his".

But it just so happens in the cases where it DOES mention that they received the Holy Spirit every case but one specifically mentions that tongues followed.

In Acts 8 it is clear that the apostles could KNOW if someone who believed and even was baptized had received the Spirit. If it was automatic Phil would have known. To me this is critical evidence that there was expected a sign would be present.
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