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Old 08-14-2019, 04:28 PM
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Apostolics never lose their faith and fall away? They teach the solid word of God?

PS Mike I could have addressed this to any of us in this thread including myself.
These guys are in a whole different category, bound to lose faith... Only rhyming words and no deep word and teaching. There are people like that in groups that have deep word . But a whole lifestyle of no deep word...
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These guys are in a whole different category, bound to lose faith... Only rhyming words and no deep word and teaching. There are people like that in groups that have deep word . But a whole lifestyle of no deep word...
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These guys are in a whole different category, bound to lose faith... Only rhyming words and no deep word and teaching. There are people like that in groups that have deep word . But a whole lifestyle of no deep word...
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And this modern day world of Christianity has been steadily putting what they’ve deemed as “worship leading”, above apologetics. Priorities out of alignment.

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And this modern day world of Christianity has been steadily putting what they’ve deemed as “worship leading”, above apologetics. Priorities out of alignment.
No one mentioned that they wear skinny jeans, full of piercings, and covered in tattoos.
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No one mentioned that they wear skinny jeans, full of piercings, and covered in tattoos.
What is funny is that while you brought that up, I actually just ALMOST posted that many modern day “Christians” make it hard for the hells angels club to stand out as bad dudes! What a mess...

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What is funny is that while you brought that up, I actually just ALMOST posted that many modern day “Christians” make it hard for the hells angels club to stand out as bad dudes! What a mess...
Well, with the whole "standards arguments" why would subculture attire be verboten? I have asked this in other threads, but seriously, where does the Bible teach against men wearing mascara, nail polish, skinny jeans, or tattoos.
Leviticus 19:28 is clearly speaking of a religious ceremonial cutting as in Deuteronomy 14:1. It was the cutting as the prophets of Baal and Elijah 1st Kings 18:24-29. So, while everyone goes down in flames over Deuteronomy 22:5, they should think about how far down the rabbit's hole they are going to go. No Bible against men wearing nose rings or giant loops in their ears. If you think what we are seeing now in the churches are side show freakish, just think how bad it will become in yeas to come.
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Well, with the whole "standards arguments" why would subculture attire be verboten? I have asked this in other threads, but seriously, where does the Bible teach against men wearing mascara, nail polish, skinny jeans, or tattoos.
Leviticus 19:28 is clearly speaking of a religious ceremonial cutting as in Deuteronomy 14:1. It was the cutting as the prophets of Baal and Elijah 1st Kings 18:24-29. So, while everyone goes down in flames over Deuteronomy 22:5, they should think about how far down the rabbit's hole they are going to go. No Bible against men wearing nose rings or giant loops in their ears. If you think what we are seeing now in the churches are side show freakish, just think how bad it will become in yeas to come.

Your comments a few weeks back about the coffee Bible study led by the guy w mascara and fingernail polish kinda put me to thinking on relative things......my sister attends a mega church AOG. After reading your post I asked her about having a guy w mascara, nail polish, and a sissy hair bun teaching her kids in SS class...she said well we have guys w big earring holes. I said have they been in the church a while? She said yes, and that as long as their heart is right w God then it’d be ok w her for them to teach her kids...(and said some is culture related...whatever)
Ugh.
See, the deal is, right after you posted that, my same sisters husband (they all attend the AOG mega)took his 15 year old daughter(my niece)to get a small cross tattoo behind her ear, and they were ok w it. He even wants to get another tattoo himself(has 1or2). Last year she and I sorta discussed/locked over asking ahead of time about him drinking a beer or two when we came over for family events. They have no prob w that either. I said how does is your church teaching on that and she said they don’t want their teachers drinking alcohol. Then she said if she ever quit her church teaching position she could consider drinking at that time, like her husband(doesn’t teach) does now and then when cooking on the grill.

So then, the beer, tattoos, ear frisbees, heck probly even tackle box face for all I can tell, is acceptable.
So back to the pastors having some wiggle room, yes I see what you’re meaning. I think they need to be cautious and wise about how they approach it, but things need addressed.

Kinda funny thing...a few years after i “got in”(probly 15-18 years ago), I asked our now retired pastor how come he couldn’t preach against guys wearing pink shirts?( I had been to men’s conference and the in thing was guys wearing pink). He said he couldn’t hardly do that... I said alright.
I still think guy should not wear pink. But looking back I’ve seen him wear a light pink a few times, and he’s all man brick laying break your hand w a handshake carpenter mans man...so, I guess if he wants to.
I still hate’m

Hope this post is understandable...it’s late kinda rambling. Turning in.

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