Can/Should Christians Be Democrats?

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Few things to think on, Tithemister.

1- I wasn’t taking away “is as” when it’s italicized it’s know as a interpolation inserted from then translator for better clearification. You take the words they put in and it states “Rebellion the sin of Witchcraft”.

You are correct. The “as is” is in italics, which is added for clarification, which is fortunate, because clarification (or, as you would put it, clearification) is exactly what we are in need of. Saul’s rebellion was that he rejected the word of God. He didn’t rebel against man, he rebelled against God. Just trying to clearify for you.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

2- Acts 4 they were not dealing with the government, they were dealing with religious people.

I beg to differ with you on this point. The Jews were absolutely part of the government. The Sanhedrin was part of the government. The high priest was part of the government of the Jews. Absolutely.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

3- Please explain to me, why the outcomes are different from Saul to the others.

Brother!!!! I HAVE explained it to you (about five times). The trouble is not that I haven’t explained it to you. The problem is that I cannot understand it for you. Read Acts 5

[29] Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Read, no study, this. It means that they had to make a choice. They could obey man, but to do so would be to rebel against God. On the other hand they could obey God, which would mean that they would be in rebellion to man. And yes, men that were in the Jewish government.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

4- Do you believe you can treat man one away and serve God the right way?

Absolutely. Positively.

In some cases it is necessary. (Read number three.)

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

You are correct. The “as is” is in italics, which is added for clarification, which is fortunate, because clarification (or, as you would put it, clearification) is exactly what we are in need of. Saul’s rebellion was that he rejected the word of God. He didn’t rebel against man, he rebelled against God. Just trying to clearify for you.



I beg to differ with you on this point. The Jews were absolutely part of the government. The Sanhedrin was part of the government. The high priest was part of the government of the Jews. Absolutely.



Brother!!!! I HAVE explained it to you (about five times). The trouble is not that I haven’t explained it to you. The problem is that I cannot understand it for you. Read Acts 5

[29] Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Read, no study, this. It means that they had to make a choice. They could obey man, but to do so would be to rebel against God. On the other hand they could obey God, which would mean that they would be in rebellion to man. And yes, men that were in the Jewish government.



Absolutely. Positively.

In some cases it is necessary. (Read number three.)

Rebellion to God is Witchcraft.
Rebellion to authority is victory. (As long as you believe its against Gods law.)
Brother, I just don’t agree, and you can have that opinion. I believe when Samuel said rebellion is witchcraft he didn’t put conditions on it. I believe Rebellion is different than disobedience, you don’t and that’s fine. I believe in standing for truth, yet not giving into rebellion. Young men and women if they believe their authority is wrong can stand against it and be blessed. Women who they believe there husband is wanting for them to do something they believe is against God can rebel against their authority and God will bless them. Saints in the church who they believe their Pastor is not in Gods word, can stand against their Pastor and God will bless them. Why not use the example I started with, if your a Pastor teach your saints if you think your taxes are high and your government is oppressive, rebel against the government and over throw it. God will give you the victory.
My opinion is the way you treat your wife is the way you treat your relationship with God! The way you treat your family is the way your relationship with God is going. The Bible says bless them that hate you, do good unto them that dispitefully use you. Jesus taught us to render to Caesar’s (their government) and to God the things that are Gods. James taught us you CANNOT hate your brother and love God. Jesus said they’ll know your my disciple by the love you’ll have one for another. I disagree with the notion that you can treat God with respect and reverence and yet your fellow man you can treat differently. Disciples wanted to call fire down on people and Jesus rebuked them and said “ye know not what spirit your of!” The moment you can put conditions of sin that means other sins have conditions as well

Were going to disagree on this, but it was a great discussion.