Will a man go to hell for wearing a dress?

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

That's called naked.

OK now I AM confused.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Rico

Brother, you know good and well that there is such a thing as women's pants. Stop playing dumb. It doesn't look good on you.

Not before 1850 and even then they were considered an under garment.
Deal with it, there are no such thing as women's pants.

Originally Posted by Rico

You're funny, NOT!

Not really trying to be funny, so in your research you found that God wants the sexes to dress and look the same? kind of a George Orwell 1984 look?

Originally Posted by Rico

To be honest with you, I don't really care what you think about my attitude. If you are looking for an attitude try reading back some of your posts.

So you admit that I'm right. A little hesitant but your coming around.

Originally Posted by Rico

If someone gets into a pulpit and preaches something that isn't true, what do you call it? I call it preaching lies.

Brother Rico this is what I originally said to you.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sorry but people are people and they won't do anything they don't want to do. Do you think that you have some kind of corner on the market and that everyone else is just duped? Let me see, so you're saying that everyone who believes in Holiness Standards are bunch of stupid dopes who are pounded into submission to do things they know are wrong? Is that what you're saying?

Then you said:

Originally Posted by Rico

When did I say that? Apparently, you either do not read everything I say or just choose to read what you want to read.

So I guess I was correct, you believe that we who are in Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness Churches are a bunch of dopes believing LIES, but you are on some other level then us cavemen who know the lies but refuse to come out of the cave where you are.

Originally Posted by Rico

I don't have time right now to study Lev 18.

Study? How about flipping the to the page and skim it. I think about the few first verses should tell you the whole story.

Originally Posted by Rico

I will, however ask you what you use to decide which part of the law you will obey and which part you ignore. How about the suit in your avatar? Is it mixed fabrics.

No it's a 100% cotton, so is the shirt and undershirt, it cuts down on sweat.

Originally Posted by Rico

If so, then that is an abomination. But wait, it's ok to ignore that part of the law but harp on another.

If you feel that way then go to Leviticus 18 and tell me how those laws are no longer applicable to us today, or do you pick and choose.

Originally Posted by Rico

I said what I meant and meant what I said.

Ok, then what you're saying is that Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness Churches are full of liars and the decieved?

Originally Posted by Rico

Anyone that gets into a pulpit and preaches that Deut 22:5 is talking about women wearing dresses and men wearing pants is preaching a bold faced lie, in my opinion.

It has to be your opinion Brother Rico because you have no proof to refute what has been presented. In other words you believe that men and women can look the same and God has no problem with it.

Originally Posted by Rico

Thank you. And good luck with yours as well.

Now how can you say that if I'm a liar? So you wish liars good luck so they can continue to lie to people?

Originally Posted by Rico

And what did Paul have to say to those who thought it proper to continue in the law?

Good go and read Leviticus 18 Brother Rico, I see you have a perfect understanding of the scriptures but Apostolic Pentecostals are liars.
How does it feel being so scholarly and enlightened?

Originally Posted by Rico

Spare me the sarcasm, Brother. It doesn't become you, nor does it further your argument.

Hey why can't I use some sarcasm look at what I have to compete with, it's not everyday you get to deal with such enlightened gurus. Hey let me know when you complete that reading of Leviticus 18 will you be doing that in Hebrew or Chaldean?

Originally Posted by Rico

Again, stop putting words into my mouth.

Not me you did that all on your own.

Originally Posted by Rico

I know full well that the ministry plays a role in the life of a believer, but they are not the exclusive way that God deals with people. God can speak to me just like He speaks to anyone else. In fact, He has many times in my life. Sometimes through the preaching, mainly through His Word, and recently more through dreams. If you have a problem with that take it up with God beccause neither you nor any other power hungry preacher will ever be able to take that away from me.

So let me ask you this how do you know which ones are the liars?
Are the ones who argee with you truth tellers?

Originally Posted by Rico

Never said that either. I would really appreciate it if you'd stop with the idiotic accusations. If you don't then this conversation is over.

Don't worry Brother I'm pretty much done.

Originally Posted by Rico

For the last time, if anyone gets into a pulpit and preaches something that is not found in the Word then that means they are preaching lies, in my opinion. If preaching lies makes someone a liar then a liar is what they are.

When a man thinks it's a great task to review a chapter in the Bible (Leviticus 18) especially when you can just click on the verse I had typed, you loose the right to call any preacher a liar.

Originally Posted by Rico

Again, never said anyone was in the dark ages. This is really getting old, Benincasa.

No you just said we are liars so that means the people who are listening to us are in the ones who are being lied to therefore they are in the Dark Ages. Tell you what, after you study out Leviticus 18 maybe you can flip on the History Channel and watch all about the Dark Ages.

Originally Posted by Rico

Why would I end up in some flipped out religion? I still believe the Gospel, Brother. That's not going to change. It's a settled issue for me.

Hey you are walking in the light the Holiness Brothers and Sisters and myself are still under you in the food chain.

Originally Posted by Rico

Answers are in blue. Brother, I am getting tired of you saying I said things I never said.

Brother Rico, are you saying things you never meant or words you never typed? I will agree there may not be words you have typed, but your meaning was loud and clear.

Originally Posted by Rico

It's getting old and isn't productive. Every now and then I like getting into a one on one with people of other mindsets, but I am not going to continue if you keep saying I've said things I've never said just to try and make me look bad.

I leave this one alone.

Originally Posted by Rico

I haven't said anything that is too hard for anyone of average intelligence to understand so stop trying to twist what I say into something I am not saying.

Woo hoo! I'm just an suit wearing Pennycostal one sock lower than the other, and worn out knees. Sorry I'm ain't intellajectual fer yah.

So you really think that men and women can look the same?

Originally Posted by Rico

Maybe God lets you get away with that with His Word, but I ain't God.

No you're not God, you just think your smarter than He is.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Not before 1850 and even then they were considered an under garment.
Deal with it, there are no such thing as women's pants.





Not really trying to be funny, so in your research you found that God wants the sexes to dress and look the same? kind of a George Orwell 1984 look?



So you admit that I'm right. A little hesitant but your coming around.




Brother Rico this is what I originally said to you.



Then you said:



So I guess I was correct, you believe that we who are in Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness Churches are a bunch of dopes believing LIES, but you are on some other level then us cavemen who know the lies but refuse to come out of the cave where you are.




Study? How about flipping the to the page and skim it. I think about the few first verses should tell you the whole story.



No it's a 100% cotton, so is the shirt and undershirt, it cuts down on sweat.




If you feel that way then go to Leviticus 18 and tell me how those laws are no longer applicable to us today, or do you pick and choose.




Ok, then what you're saying is that Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness Churches are full of liars and the decieved?




It has to be your opinion Brother Rico because you have no proof to refute what has been presented. In other words you believe that men and women can look the same and God has no problem with it.




Now how can you say that if I'm a liar? So you wish liars good luck so they can continue to lie to people?



Good go and read Leviticus 18 Brother Rico, I see you have a perfect understanding of the scriptures but Apostolic Pentecostals are liars.
How does it feel being so scholarly and enlightened?




Hey why can't I use some sarcasm look at what I have to compete with, it's not everyday you get to deal with such enlightened gurus. Hey let me know when you complete that reading of Leviticus 18 will you be doing that in Hebrew or Chaldean?



Not me you did that all on your own.





So let me ask you this how do you know which ones are the liars?
Are the ones who argee with you truth tellers?




Don't worry Brother I'm pretty much done.



When a man thinks it's a great task to review a chapter in the Bible (Leviticus 18) especially when you can just click on the verse I had typed, you loose the right to call any preacher a liar.





No you just said we are liars so that means the people who are listening to us are in the ones who are being lied to therefore they are in the Dark Ages. Tell you what, after you study out Leviticus 18 maybe you can flip on the History Channel and watch all about the Dark Ages.





Hey you are walking in the light the Holiness Brothers and Sisters and myself are still under you in the food chain.



Brother Rico, are you saying things you never meant or words you never typed? I will agree there may not be words you have typed, but your meaning was loud and clear.





I leave this one alone.





Woo hoo! I'm just an suit wearing Pennycostal one sock lower than the other, and worn out knees. Sorry I'm ain't intellajectual fer yah.

So you really think that men and women can look the same?





No you're not God, you just think your smarter than He is.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Brother, as soon as you're ready to go buy your pants in the woman's department I will be willing to continue this discussion with you. But see, I already know you won't be doing that because you don't believe in wearing women's clothes. But, wait a minute, pants are men's apparrel so you should be fine. Just remember they will most likely fit you a bit higher up cause a woman's waist is a bit higher than a man's. Plus, they may not fit very well around your hips cause they are designed for a woman's curves. And lastly, they will most definitely be tighter in the crotch area cause they use less material in that area. Oh, I almost forgot. They button from the other side than what you are used to . Other than that there's no difference in men's pants and women's pants so you should be ok getting your pants there. Lemme know when you go and be sure to take a lot of pictures. Have fun shopping!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Rico

Brother, as soon as you're ready to go buy your pants in the woman's department I will be willing to continue this discussion with you. But see, I already know you won't be doing that because you don't believe in wearing women's clothes. But, wait a minute, pants are men's apparrel so you should be fine. Just remember they will most likely fit you a bit higher up cause a woman's waist is a bit higher than a man's. Plus, they may not fit very well around your hips cause they are designed for a woman's curves. And lastly, they will most definitely be tighter in the crotch area cause they use less material in that area. Oh, I almost forgot. They button from the other side than what you are used to . Other than that there's no difference in men's pants and women's pants so you should be ok getting your pants there. Lemme know when you go and be sure to take a lot of pictures. Have fun shopping!

So you believe that men and women can dress the same?

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

So you believe that men and women can dress the same?

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

See? There you go again. I DID NOT SAY THAT! Men should wear men's pants and women should wear women's pants. Soon as you are willing to buy your pants in the women's department I will believe that you believe that pants are only for men. I'm done. Have fun.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Rico

See? There you go again. I DID NOT SAY THAT! Men should wear men's pants and women should wear women's pants. Soon as you are willing to buy your pants in the women's department I will believe that you believe that pants are only for men. I'm done. Have fun.

So women's pants must be bought in a certain location to make them female?


Yeap stick a fork in it Bro, you're done.

Love you Brother Rico.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

So women's pants must be bought in a certain location to make them female?


Yeap stick a fork in it Bro, you're done.

Love you Brother Rico.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Ok. Now you are making even less sense than you normally do. Where else can someone get women's pants if not the women's department, except for yard sales, catalogs, and the internet? Even the Goodwill stores separate the women's pants from the men's pants.


Now, if you will excuse me I am going to go take a shower and go watch some cable tv downstairs. It's much more entertaining than this conversation has become. Have fun.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Rico

Ok. Now you are making even less sense than you normally do. Where else can someone get women's pants if not the women's department, except for yard sales, catalogs, and the internet? Even the Goodwill stores separate the women's pants from the men's pants.

So if you stand in the women's department of the store what would that mean?

Brother Rico do you believe that a men and women can look the same?

Originally Posted by Rico

Now, if you will excuse me I am going to go take a shower and go watch some cable tv downstairs. It's much more entertaining than this conversation has become. Have fun.

Shouldn’t you take the shower after watching the television?

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Shouldn’t you take the shower after watching the television?

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Ain't that the truth. I haven't been able to watch anything on television as of late. Even the news is disgusting me.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

So if you stand in the women's department of the store what would that mean?

Brother Rico do you believe that a men and women can look the same?



Shouldn’t you take the shower after watching the television?

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Bottom line-there is a difference in men's pants and women's pants. They are cut differently. Therefore, a woman that wears women's pants is not wearing men's appparrel. If you are asking me do I think there is such a thing as unisex clothing then yes, it does exist but that doesn't mean women are wearing that which pertaineth to a man just because she has pants on.

Take a look at the picture of these pants. Notice the roundness of the hip aread, the lack of material in the crotch area, and the higher waist? That's because they are women's pants. Now, if there is no such thing as women's pants then it should be perfectly fine for you to order these pants and wear them. But you wouldn't, would you? Why wouldn't you? Answer that question.