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Old 01-08-2020, 07:53 PM
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They did not continue in His covenant does not equate to they could not obey Me by a natural inability.
Neither Jeremiah 31 nor Hebrews 8 says anything about ability, they only state the obvious: Israel and Judah failed to keep the covenant. I'm not arguing that God didn't promise to write His laws in the hearts of His people in order to cause them to be faithful and obedient. I am saying neither verse you posted speaks about ability.
No no no.
Paul clearly described INABILITY when he said to will was present but how to perform was not, and I recall that you changed the obvious reading to mean the point was actually NOT WILLING, which habit of changing plain reading is most common with sabbath keepers, as in 2 Cor 3, Col 2, and Gal 4.
I notice you shifted the goalpost there from Jeremiah and Hebrews to Romans. I said Jeremiah said nothing about ability, you denied that and promptly left Jeremiah in the dust. That's a common tactic I've seen with antisabbatarians. They get pinned on a point or scripture and jump to another as if nobody will notice what just happened.
I am using no tactic as though I am distracting. Hebrews 8 quoted Jer 31. And the entire point of irresistible compulsion to sin is what Romans is about in chapters 6 through 8.

I did not leave Jeremiah in the dust. I showed how the alternate reading in Hebrews 8 reveals his thoughts, and how it must be understood as I explained due to the overall message of Romans 6-8.

Pinned on a point? LOL
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I am using no tactic as though I am distracting. Hebrews 8 quoted Jer 31. And the entire point of irresistible compulsion to sin is what Romans is about in chapters 6 through 8.

I did not leave Jeremiah in the dust. I showed how the alternate reading in Hebrews 8 reveals his thoughts, and how it must be understood as I explained due to the overall message of Romans 6-8.

Pinned on a point? LOL
The simple truth is Jeremiah said nothing about ability or inability. Ability and inability are an INTERPRETATION YOU DERIVE FROM ROMANS, NOT THE WORDS OF JEREMIAH. My original point on this was that you said Jeremiah taught inability, which is observably false: Jeremiah said nothing about ability or inability.

Romans does not tell us what Jeremiah SAID. Going to Romans to prove inability does NOTHING to prove the proposition "Jeremiah talked about inability." It is literally IRRELEVANT to THAT proposition.
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