Salvation is a free gift. Yes was are to obstain from sin, but that is because sin separates us from Him. Dress code does not.
Also what you so greatly provided about grace shows that God will give grace to many different people. The agrument at hand is if God gives grace to those that do not follow a dress code. He gives grace to the Humble, which says nothing about dress standards.
You are trying to draw a line that says those that do not follow a dress standard can not love God, be humble, show mercy, we are not "lowly", and can not walk uprightly. These are alll very very wrong.
You put the verse in II Corinthians 6:17-18 that tells to not touch any unclean thing and separate ourselves from "them." Separate yourself to God not stick out like a sore thumb. It is childish to think that God has become some type of task master and says, "you gotta look a certain way, dress, etc." If God wanted for all of us to be cookie cutter pentecostal christians then why did he makes us so different?
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Rabbit hole?? Funny! Had to go home from work at some point. Computer at home is not running right.
I was using dress standards as point of referance to argue my point of Grace and Mercy. I was not meaning to make it seem I was pointing a finger at you about the dress code. My mistake, did not explain the reason I brought it up. Most people that say grace and mercy is conditional often point to dress standards though. It was a great post though, kudos.
I haven't seen anyone on this thread say anything you claim about grace and mercy being extended to those who follow dress standards.
You also accused Roxanne of bringing it up then claim you weren't pointing a finger at her about it.
Are your eyes on straight? LOL!
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I haven't seen anyone on this thread say anything you claim about grace and mercy being extended to those who follow dress standards.
You also accused Roxanne of bringing it up then claim you weren't pointing a finger at her about it.
Are your eyes on straight? LOL!
Please reread my last post. I was stating that grace and mercy is unconditional. She listed verses that made an attempt to say differently. I used the dress standard thing as an example. I never said she brought it up. I said that I was using it as an example. In my original post I did not let her know I was using as an example to show how grace and mercy works. There are some cons that do not show mercy or grace towards a dress standards. The libs refer to God's great grace and mercy to show that the is no real dress code.
I did not write it how I was meaning to come out. I did not mean to point at her like I was saying she brought it up because she didn't. I did not mean for it to be that way. I brought it up to try and help my argument about grace and mercy.
Did that all make sense for all of you out there is trying to lynch pin me here?
I think my eyes work....may need to get them checked.
Please reread my last post. I was stating that grace and mercy is unconditional. She listed verses that made an attempt to say differently. I used the dress standard thing as an example. I never said she brought it up. I said that I was using it as an example. In my original post I did not let her know I was using as an example to show how grace and mercy works. There are some cons that do not show mercy or grace towards a dress standards. The libs refer to God's great grace and mercy to show that the is no real dress code.
I did not write it how I was meaning to come out. I did not mean to point at her like I was saying she brought it up because she didn't. I did not mean for it to be that way. I brought it up to try and help my argument about grace and mercy.
Did that all make sense for all of you out there is trying to lynch pin me here?
I think my eyes work....may need to get them checked.
Lynch pin nothing. You followed a lame stereotype to the expected end of the death of a strawman. I would recommend, rather than pulling out a misconception of personal value to you, that you go to the Word of God. I did not 'attempt' to prove anything about God's grace and mercy; I simply gave you what God Himself has said in His Word about these two very important topics about which you appear to have a faulty understanding.
Lynch pin nothing. You followed a lame stereotype to the expected end of the death of a strawman. I would recommend, rather than pulling out a misconception of personal value to you, that you go to the Word of God. I did not 'attempt' to prove anything about God's grace and mercy; I simply gave you what God Himself has said in His Word about these two very important topics about which you appear to have a faulty understanding.
Wow SISTER Murphy. I did not know I made you this mad. I guess that is what I get for trying to use an example to prove my stance. I guess I am still not making myself clear here. Or is maybe you are not understanding my APOLOGY FOR MY POST!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Now that is out of our way....I appreciate all the scripture you gave in your first rebuttle of my post. The only point I was trying to make was that grace and mercy are given unconditionally. That was where I was trying to get with my post. Sorry I pointed my finger at you. That was not my intention. AGAIN, I was trying to use an example to prove my point in the argument. You did not bring up the standards thing, I did and as I was typing on this thread I was thinking of another thread and merged the two seperate responses into one. AGAIN I am sorry. I hope you can understand that...I MADE A MISTAKE. Is all forgiven and better now???? I sure hope so....
Wow SISTER Murphy. I did not know I made you this mad. I guess that is what I get for trying to use an example to prove my stance. I guess I am still not making myself clear here. Or is maybe you are not understanding my APOLOGY FOR MY POST!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Now that is out of our way....I appreciate all the scripture you gave in your first rebuttle of my post. The only point I was trying to make was that grace and mercy are given unconditionally. That was where I was trying to get with my post. Sorry I pointed my finger at you. That was not my intention. AGAIN, I was trying to use an example to prove my point in the argument. You did not bring up the standards thing, I did and as I was typing on this thread I was thinking of another thread and merged the two seperate responses into one. AGAIN I am sorry. I hope you can understand that...I MADE A MISTAKE. Is all forgiven and better now???? I sure hope so....
No, all is not forgiven. Some prefer a burnt sacrifice as atonement, and they want it to be YOU!
Wow SISTER Murphy. I did not know I made you this mad. I guess that is what I get for trying to use an example to prove my stance. I guess I am still not making myself clear here. Or is maybe you are not understanding my APOLOGY FOR MY POST!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Now that is out of our way....I appreciate all the scripture you gave in your first rebuttle of my post. The only point I was trying to make was that grace and mercy are given unconditionally. That was where I was trying to get with my post. Sorry I pointed my finger at you. That was not my intention. AGAIN, I was trying to use an example to prove my point in the argument. You did not bring up the standards thing, I did and as I was typing on this thread I was thinking of another thread and merged the two seperate responses into one. AGAIN I am sorry. I hope you can understand that...I MADE A MISTAKE. Is all forgiven and better now???? I sure hope so....
If you make yourself a cat of nine tails made from chains and attach a spiked metal ball to the end of each chain, and then proceed to flog yourself for 40 days, that may be a more acceptable apology to her and she may at that point consider forgiving you.
If you make yourself a cat of nine tails made from chains and attach a spiked metal ball to the end of each chain, and then proceed to flog yourself for 40 days, that may be a more acceptable apology to her and she may at that point consider forgiving you.
Wow SISTER Murphy. I did not know I made you this mad. I guess that is what I get for trying to use an example to prove my stance. I guess I am still not making myself clear here. Or is maybe you are not understanding my APOLOGY FOR MY POST!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Now that is out of our way....I appreciate all the scripture you gave in your first rebuttle of my post. The only point I was trying to make was that grace and mercy are given unconditionally. That was where I was trying to get with my post. Sorry I pointed my finger at you. That was not my intention. AGAIN, I was trying to use an example to prove my point in the argument. You did not bring up the standards thing, I did and as I was typing on this thread I was thinking of another thread and merged the two seperate responses into one. AGAIN I am sorry. I hope you can understand that...I MADE A MISTAKE. Is all forgiven and better now???? I sure hope so....
Friend, I wasn't mad, I was just annoyed. I don't think you pointed a finger at me, you just went down a completely irrelevant path.
Now, as to the original point you made, I am very much interested in seeing that you support it from scripture.
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