Should we teach others to rebel against standards?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

We have people coming in our church all the time with facial hair. We don’t say anything. When someone get in the church it’s a minimum of 6months before they are used. Most of the the men that have facial hair have shaved by that point and nobody ever had to deal with it. If they haven’t and want to be used than we tell them that’s the requirement for them to be used. Can’t really think of any situation that someone was on fire for God wanting to be used that didn’t do it. Usually it’s the person that’s been in church years that says “ ain’t no bible for it so I’m don’t care what the church says “ that want to grow it out. Obviously there are other issue with the person. I have never in all my life heard a pastor say that facial hair itself is a sin and is a heaven or hell issue. The times I have had to deal with it which are very few was no problem.

So Jesus Christ and the apostles would have had to wait for 6 months and be shaved to be used in the Church

So are rebellion which is like witchcraft and pride damnable sins? Its right here on this thread. Apostolics teaching beards are sin and if these sins lead to Hell you have heard it right here. And whatever Pastor teaches such a thing is guilty of the same accusation.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

So Jesus Christ and the apostles would have had to wait for 6 months and be shaved to be used in the Church

So are rebellion which is like witchcraft and pride damnable sins? Its right here on this thread. Apostolics teaching beards are sin and if these sins lead to Hell you have heard it right here. And whatever Pastor teaches such a thing is guilty of the same accusation.

You seriously have a problem with someone waiting a period of time to be used in the local church?! They can go outside and preach/sing/witness or whatever else they want to do but you seriously have issue if you see a problem with someone waiting for a period of time in any type of leadership role???

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

You seriously have a problem with someone waiting a period of time to be used in the local church?! They can go outside and preach/sing/witness or whatever else they want to do but you seriously have issue if you see a problem with someone waiting for a period of time in any type of leadership role???

It was meant in context to show that someone with a beard....like Jesus....or his apostles would be kept from ministry because they had a beard.

Most of the the men that have facial hair have shaved by that point and nobody ever had to deal with it. If they haven’t and want to be used than we tell them that’s the requirement for them to be used.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

It was meant in context to show that someone with a beard....like Jesus....or his apostles would be kept from ministry because they had a beard.

You can’t have a discussion when you go to the extreme. We also don’t allow sandals On the platform either so I guess that eliminates whole centuries of people from being used if they were here in 2020 dressed like they were from some other century.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

You can’t have a discussion when you go to the extreme. We also don’t allow sandals On the platform either so I guess that eliminates whole centuries of people from being used if they were here in 2020 dressed like they were from some other century.

My Brother,

The extreme is that preachers who are supposedly "Apostolic" are teaching men who wear the God designed beard he gave them that unless they shave it off they are in sin.

THATS THE EXTREME!

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

You can’t have a discussion when you go to the extreme. We also don’t allow sandals On the platform either so I guess that eliminates whole centuries of people from being used if they were here in 2020 dressed like they were from some other century.

I agree with that. In my opinion thats disrespect! If the president, or some high ranking official came, Ill you what people would dress better than Sunday. Thats a shame, they treat visiting or seeing some “high” status individual, but they’ll complain when the Pastor sets a standard for the church.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Who said Jesus had a beard? Are you going to walk around in the same type of clothes they wore back then?

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

I agree with that. In my opinion thats disrespect! If the president, or some high ranking official came, Ill you what people would dress better than Sunday. Thats a shame, they treat visiting or seeing some “high” status individual, but they’ll complain when the Pastor sets a standard for the church.

And nice clothes to sit on the platform?

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

And nice clothes to sit on the platform?

Here’s James’ opinion of your doctrine.
Jas.2

[1] My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.
[2] For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment;
[3] And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:
[4] Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?
[5] Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
[6] But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?
[7] Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?
[8] If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
[9] But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

Little has changed in two thousand years.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

It was meant in context to show that someone with a beard....like Jesus....or his apostles would be kept from ministry because they had a beard.

Who said Jesus had a beard? Are you going to walk around in the same type of clothes they wore back then?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Who said Jesus had a beard? Are you going to walk around in the same type of clothes they wore back then?

In Lev. 21:5 we read:

They shall not make any bald place on their heads nor shall they SHAVE THE EDGES OF THEIR BEARDS nor make any cuttings in their flesh.

Did Jesus keep this command?

It would SEEM YHWH had no thought about how rebellious a beard might make a man.

But......modern Apostolic preachers saw it!

God never said it was sin but rather it pleased him. Modern preachers just ran out of things to preach against so they just made it up!

Makes you wonder how he feels about preachers who think they are more discerning of hearts than he?