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Old 02-26-2020, 09:27 AM
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Re: Will drinking beer send you to hell?

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do addictions of any sort send you to hell?
My assumption is that you and myself are in the same chain of thought.

We’re (or they are) having a discussion about weather drinking beer will send you to hell? Like all discussions the topic of beer will eventually lead to another topic, and that would be, eating too much, wine, dip etc...

This is my thought on the matter. I wonder if you ask this question to a sinner that is familiar with addictions, what his response would be? I’m working with a young man right now from the jail ministry that has been addicted to meth for over 9 years. As of right now he has been clean for almost 3 months, this is the longest he has been clean from that drug for over 9 years! Where did it all start? It all began by smoking a single cigarette! Contrary to popular belief one addiction will lead to another! Heard a young lady say, “I’m no longer on crack, I just started smoking 2 packs of cigarettes a day”, and I’m not exaggerating.

Will drinking a beer send me to hell? My question to you is, why would you want to? In my experience there is always a reasons for a question, some may want to justify what there doing, some are curious. I counsel this way, and you take it for what its worth. I believe in open doors, and allowing yourself to drink a beer, or smoke a cigarette will lead to other sins. There are those that may drink a beer, smoke a cigarette, etc. they may not be addicted to that drug, but that opened a door to “other” sins. Ive talked to them in the jail, out of the jail, in the church, out of the church and they all tell me the same thing, I never thought it would lead here! The Bible says,

Matthew 26:41
Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.


We’re not to just pray that we enter not it into temptation, we’re suppose to watch as well. We should understand if we do this, were is this going to lead, what other doors are going to open because of this. The Bible doesn’t have to say if this is wrong, this is right,

John 16:13
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.


Someone will say, well the Bible doesn’t tell me this is wrong, so I guess I can do it? Do you really want to live like that? Was the Bible written to you, or for you? Jesus said I will lead you into all truth. We get into trouble because we stop counseling with our God. We no longer ask him, if this is good for us. Then we find ourselves in sin, and wondering how we got here. If we would allow the spirit to teach us and minister to us we would not be in the position we find ourselves in at times.
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Old 02-26-2020, 09:58 AM
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Re: Will drinking beer send you to hell?

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My assumption is that you and myself are in the same chain of thought.

We’re (or they are) having a discussion about weather drinking beer will send you to hell? Like all discussions the topic of beer will eventually lead to another topic, and that would be, eating too much, wine, dip etc...

This is my thought on the matter. I wonder if you ask this question to a sinner that is familiar with addictions, what his response would be? I’m working with a young man right now from the jail ministry that has been addicted to meth for over 9 years. As of right now he has been clean for almost 3 months, this is the longest he has been clean from that drug for over 9 years! Where did it all start? It all began by smoking a single cigarette! Contrary to popular belief one addiction will lead to another! Heard a young lady say, “I’m no longer on crack, I just started smoking 2 packs of cigarettes a day”, and I’m not exaggerating.

Will drinking a beer send me to hell? My question to you is, why would you want to? In my experience there is always a reasons for a question, some may want to justify what there doing, some are curious. I counsel this way, and you take it for what its worth. I believe in open doors, and allowing yourself to drink a beer, or smoke a cigarette will lead to other sins. There are those that may drink a beer, smoke a cigarette, etc. they may not be addicted to that drug, but that opened a door to “other” sins. Ive talked to them in the jail, out of the jail, in the church, out of the church and they all tell me the same thing, I never thought it would lead here! The Bible says,

Matthew 26:41
Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.


We’re not to just pray that we enter not it into temptation, we’re suppose to watch as well. We should understand if we do this, were is this going to lead, what other doors are going to open because of this. The Bible doesn’t have to say if this is wrong, this is right,

John 16:13
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.


Someone will say, well the Bible doesn’t tell me this is wrong, so I guess I can do it? Do you really want to live like that? Was the Bible written to you, or for you? Jesus said I will lead you into all truth. We get into trouble because we stop counseling with our God. We no longer ask him, if this is good for us. Then we find ourselves in sin, and wondering how we got here. If we would allow the spirit to teach us and minister to us we would not be in the position we find ourselves in at times.
So then WILL drinking beer altho you dont get drunk send you to Hell? Is that your conclusion?
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Old 02-26-2020, 11:32 AM
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Re: Will drinking beer send you to hell?

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So then WILL drinking beer altho you dont get drunk send you to Hell? Is that your conclusion?
How will you know when you are drunk? Is it the 1st drink the 5th drink the 10th drink? 1 beer? 3 beers??? I have met plenty of people that drink and say they aren’t drunk but think they are who decides where the line is for drunk? Is being “ buzzed “ being drunk?
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How will you know when you are drunk? Is it the 1st drink the 5th drink the 10th drink? 1 beer? 3 beers??? I have met plenty of people that drink and say they aren’t drunk but think they are who decides where the line is for drunk? Is being “ buzzed “ being drunk?
Buzzed is drunk. People will argue. People are wrong.
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Old 02-26-2020, 03:53 PM
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Buzzed is drunk. People will argue. People are wrong.
There is a difference in being drunk and not being drunk. Jesus drank wine. He didnt get drunk. They accused him of being a "winebibber".

The drunkard will be cast into the flames of Hell and be destroyed.
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There is a difference in being drunk and not being drunk. Jesus drank wine. He didnt get drunk. They accused him of being a "winebibber".

The drunkard will be cast into the flames of Hell and be destroyed.
How about the overeater?
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So if you are addicted to something then its all good. I see.
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How about the overeater?
I’m addicted to bacon too. Sometimes I can just feel my cholesterol tanking, and I have to get a fix. Ice cream too.
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How will you know when you are drunk? Is it the 1st drink the 5th drink the 10th drink? 1 beer? 3 beers??? I have met plenty of people that drink and say they aren’t drunk but think they are who decides where the line is for drunk? Is being “ buzzed “ being drunk?
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There is a difference in being drunk and not being drunk. Jesus drank wine. He didnt get drunk. They accused him of being a "winebibber".

The drunkard will be cast into the flames of Hell and be destroyed.
So why don’t you answer my question if that’s the case?
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Old 02-26-2020, 06:44 PM
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So why don’t you answer my question if that’s the case?
I’m going to take a “shot” at this. I probably shouldn’t, because I have zero experience being drunk. But it has occurred to me that a person should be held to the same standard, whether they are drunk or not. Maybe it shouldn’t be a matter of how much you’ve had to drink. But that you are responsible for your actions no matter how much you’ve consumed. If you’re talking about driving or salvation. The responsibility is on the drinker. It should be a “sobering” thought.
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So why don’t you answer my question if that’s the case?
Being drunk is different than not being drunk. Committing fornication is not the same as not committing fornication. One does not have to do it and find out what its like. God condemns being drunk and committing fornication.

I do not advocate for drinking beer or wine. I would prefer people would not. Yet who am I that I would forbid it in total when Jesus himself did it? Matt 12:19

The prophet Daniel did? Dan. 10:3

Nonetheless when I was coming off my life of drunkeness and partying I immediately cut down to 2 beers. After a few times of that the 2 started getting to me. I cut down to 1. That did not last long as I felt it would be a better witness to drop it altogether. That was 1974. I have not desired it since that day.

Beer tastes bad. Other things taste much better. If I were very thirsty and had nothing else to drink I would drink it but for me in "excess" would be more than one.

For some one might be to much. Drink water, fruit juice, pop, ect if its available.You will be better off!

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