Will drinking beer send you to hell?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by loran adkins

Will drinking wine or beer send you to hell? Yes if you do it with no faith.

Rom 14:22 Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.
Rom 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

And for everyone's information the bible dose not teach against getting drunk, it teaches against being a drunkard. Big difference. And if anyone would study history just a bit, you would find that until the late 19 century drinking was common with every type of walk of life.

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I is really simple, Paul says if you have faith that what you eat or drink is ok God will not judge you. But to those that do not think it is ok, but they go ahead and eat what they think is wrong then to them it is sin.

Paul also goes on to say that those that do not think it is wrong should not cause a brother that thinks something is wrong to fall into sin by testing there faith by doing something in front of them. He also called the brother that thinks somethings are wrong a weaker brother, I wonder why he does this?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Godsdrummer

I is really simple, Paul says if you have faith that what you eat or drink is ok God will not judge you. But to those that do not think it is ok, but they go ahead and eat what they think is wrong then to them it is sin.

Paul also goes on to say that those that do not think it is wrong should not cause a brother that thinks something is wrong to fall into sin by testing there faith by doing something in front of them. He also called the brother that thinks somethings are wrong a weaker brother, I wonder why he does this?

Yet Paul ties it all together with if eating pagan sacrifices causes neophytes to stumble, he will eat no more meat as long as the world standeth. Also Paul is dealing with religious ceremony. The partaking of food and drink within the two spheres of the religions, law keeping Israelism, and Paganism. Not drinking beer and martinis at Pastor Snooker’s house.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Saying that if I do something in faith unto God is permissible has some deadly reprocussions.

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Saying that if I do something in faith unto God is permissible has some deadly reprocussions.

Oh come on get real, the word has nothing to do with doing something that is out right wrong. But drinking is not something that is spelled out in the bible, one way or the other. There has always been room for discution, and if any body went as far as to study the wine making process before pasteurization or homogenization they would know that the fermentation process was the purification process to make wine in the bible days last, without going bad.

All the juice or wine in the bible was fermented. And if you know anything about the wine making process you would know that what Solomon is talking about in Proverbs Is not hard liquor or fermented wine, he is talking about wine in the process of becoming fermented.

The real admonition the bible speaks about is being a drunkered.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Godsdrummer

Oh come on get real, the word has nothing to do with doing something that is out right wrong. But drinking is not something that is spelled out in the bible, one way or the other. There has always been room for discution, and if any body went as far as to study the wine making process before pasteurization or homogenization they would know that the fermentation process was the purification process to make wine in the bible days last, without going bad.

All the juice or wine in the bible was fermented. And if you know anything about the wine making process you would know that what Solomon is talking about in Proverbs Is not hard liquor or fermented wine, he is talking about wine in the process of becoming fermented.

The real admonition the bible speaks about is being a drunkered.

Getting real is understanding that inebriation is forbidden. Whether you get it from narcotics, fermented beverage, or food. It is all the same thing. Let your moderation be known of all men, therefore someone who had full control over their senses also would of their tongue. Therefore having control over their whole body. The submission to the Holy Ghost insured they would walk and not stumble. Run and not fall.

[loran adkins]

Notice the admonition is not to, not get drunk, but not to get drunk to excess.
So the idea to just be buzzed is a sin does not even compute.

This is how some go to far, with the idea of total abstinence When the verse says to not be in excess we go so far as to say we need to be in total abstinence. In my opinion this is adding to the word which is just as bad as taking away from the word.

Broke faith by disobeying the word in your opinion. injured your witness? many Christians do not think drinking is wrong it is just the opinion of many ultra conservatives, the fact is the bible does not spell out drinking alcoholic beverages as a sin any more than it teaches tithing in the New Testament.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Getting real is understanding that inebriation is forbidden. Whether you get it from narcotics, fermented beverage, or food. It is all the same thing. Let your moderation be known of all men, therefore someone who had full control over their senses also would of their tongue. Therefore having control over their whole body. The submission to the Holy Ghost insured they would walk and not stumble. Run and not fall.

Sorry it is not forbidden, it is warned against getting too drunk, but it is never forbidden.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

That's like saying the Bible does stop condemn stealing, only thievery. Or that the Bible does not condemn adultery, only adulterers.