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[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by consapente89

No, I don’t think so.

Think about it, we had 4000 years of the Old Covenant, and were only 2000 years into the Covenant of grace. What does that mean to you? Why do you believe there is an end to this age? Do you believe the Apostles believed they were living in the last days? Peter spoke of it,

Acts 2:16-17
But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; [17] And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

He was quoting,

Joel 2:28
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

I heard preachers quoting Acts 2:17 stating that our age is when this verse is being fulfilled. So, who’s time was Joel’s prophecy fulfilled in the Apostles or ours? Because Peter quoted “in the last days”, so if it’s in our time the “last days” are sure really long.

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Think about it, we had 4000 years of the Old Covenant, and were only 2000 years into the Covenant of grace. What does that mean to you? Why do you believe there is an end to this age? Do you believe the Apostles believed they were living in the last days? Peter spoke of it,

Acts 2:16-17
But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; [17] And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

He was quoting,

Joel 2:28
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

I heard preachers quoting Acts 2:17 stating that our age is when this verse is being fulfilled. So, who’s time was Joel’s prophecy fulfilled in the Apostles or ours? Because Peter quoted “in the last days”, so if it’s in our time the “last days” are sure really long.

The last days began at Pentecost.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by consapente89

The last days began at Pentecost.

Then the last days have been going on for 2000 years. That’s doesn’t make any sense.

Matthew 24:3 KJVS
[3] And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

When is the end of the world? When is the tribulation?

Matthew 24:34
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

What generation is Jesus talking to? Brother why would Jesus say this if it’s really meant for our age? Someone is wrong, someone got their time wrong.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Then the last days have been going on for 2000 years. That’s doesn’t make any sense.

It doesn't make sense because you don't know your Bible. You do err, not knowing the Scriptures. Which only makes sense since you disregard the idea that doctrine must come from the Word and not some bubbly in your tummy you got from last night's collard greens.

Genesis 49:1-28 KJV
And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days. [2] Gather yourselves together, and hear, ye sons of Jacob; and hearken unto Israel your father. [3] Reuben, thou art my firstborn, my might, and the beginning of my strength, the excellency of dignity, and the excellency of power: [4] Unstable as water, thou shalt not excel; because thou wentest up to thy father's bed; then defiledst thou it : he went up to my couch. [5] Simeon and Levi are brethren; instruments of cruelty are in their habitations. [6] O my soul, come not thou into their secret; unto their assembly, mine honour, be not thou united: for in their anger they slew a man, and in their selfwill they digged down a wall. [7] Cursed be their anger, for it was fierce; and their wrath, for it was cruel: I will divide them in Jacob, and scatter them in Israel. [8] Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father's children shall bow down before thee. [9] Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up? [10] The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be . [11] Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass's colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes: [12] His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk. [13] Zebulun shall dwell at the haven of the sea; and he shall be for an haven of ships; and his border shall be unto Zidon. [14] Issachar is a strong ass couching down between two burdens: [15] And he saw that rest was good, and the land that it was pleasant; and bowed his shoulder to bear, and became a servant unto tribute. [16] Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel. [17] Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward. [18] I have waited for thy salvation, O Lord . [19] Gad, a troop shall overcome him: but he shall overcome at the last. [20] Out of Asher his bread shall be fat, and he shall yield royal dainties. [21] Naphtali is a hind let loose: he giveth goodly words. [22] Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall: [23] The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him , and hated him: [24] But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel:) [25] Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb: [26] The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren. [27] Benjamin shall ravin as a wolf: in the morning he shall devour the prey, and at night he shall divide the spoil. [28] All these are the twelve tribes of Israel: and this is it that their father spake unto them, and blessed them; every one according to his blessing he blessed them.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Think about it, we had 4000 years of the Old Covenant, and were only 2000 years into the Covenant of grace. What does that mean to you? Why do you believe there is an end to this age? Do you believe the Apostles believed they were living in the last days? Peter spoke of it,

Acts 2:16-17
But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; [17] And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

He was quoting,

Joel 2:28
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

I heard preachers quoting Acts 2:17 stating that our age is when this verse is being fulfilled. So, who’s time was Joel’s prophecy fulfilled in the Apostles or ours? Because Peter quoted “in the last days”, so if it’s in our time the “last days” are sure really long.

1. You avoid my posts like the plague, pretending not to notice them. Why? Because they utterly refute some of your ideas. So, you carry on as if nobody has corrected your errors. It appears quite intentional and wilful, there are none so blind as they who choose not to even look, let alone see, etc.

2. Armapeet made this exact sameclaim about 4000 years under the old covenant and was soundly corrected by brother Blume for it. Weren't you there in that discussion? Or are you Armapeet? Anyway, the old covenant began at Sinai approx 1500 BC. So there were approx 1500 years of old civenant, not 4000 years. How is it you are a teacher and don't have these really basic Bible facts down? This is what gives Pentecost a bad name.

Serious, real question here. How is it you claim to be spiritual (and the rest of are natural/fleshly/carnal) as if you have superior insight and knowledge, and yet you completely fail at basic facts that even my preteens don't? Shouldn't you instead be learning your Bible and basic facts before you go about teaching?

If anyone teaches, they need to have their ducks in quite a neat straight row. If not, they need to be called out on it. So, "Nicodemus, phone call!"

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Esaias

1. You avoid my posts like the plague, pretending not to notice them. Why? Because they utterly refute some of your ideas. So, you carry on as if nobody has corrected your errors. It appears quite intentional and wilful, there are none so blind as they who choose not to even look, let alone see, etc.

2. Armapeet made this exact sameclaim about 4000 years under the old covenant and was soundly corrected by brother Blume for it. Weren't you there in that discussion? Or are you Armapeet? Anyway, the old covenant began at Sinai approx 1500 BC. So there were approx 1500 years of old civenant, not 4000 years. How is it you are a teacher and don't have these really basic Bible facts down? This is what gives Pentecost a bad name.

Serious, real question here. How is it you claim to be spiritual (and the rest of are natural/fleshly/carnal) as if you have superior insight and knowledge, and yet you completely fail at basic facts that even my preteens don't? Shouldn't you instead be learning your Bible and basic facts before you go about teaching?

If anyone teaches, they need to have their ducks in quite a neat straight row. If not, they need to be called out on it. So, "Nicodemus, phone call!"

Esaias, I wanted to talk about heaven and earth in the previous thread and what response do I get, “this thread is old and vanished away.” Now you want to discuss, that’s fine. I have a service call and estimate to give I’ll be back.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Esaias

1. You avoid my posts like the plague, pretending not to notice them. Why? Because they utterly refute some of your ideas. So, you carry on as if nobody has corrected your errors. It appears quite intentional and wilful, there are none so blind as they who choose not to even look, let alone see, etc.

2. Armapeet made this exact sameclaim about 4000 years under the old covenant and was soundly corrected by brother Blume for it. Weren't you there in that discussion? Or are you Armapeet? Anyway, the old covenant began at Sinai approx 1500 BC. So there were approx 1500 years of old civenant, not 4000 years. How is it you are a teacher and don't have these really basic Bible facts down? This is what gives Pentecost a bad name.

Serious, real question here. How is it you claim to be spiritual (and the rest of are natural/fleshly/carnal) as if you have superior insight and knowledge, and yet you completely fail at basic facts that even my preteens don't? Shouldn't you instead be learning your Bible and basic facts before you go about teaching?

If anyone teaches, they need to have their ducks in quite a neat straight row. If not, they need to be called out on it. So, "Nicodemus, phone call!"

First off I never said you were carnal, that’s your conscience talking not me! Second I was referring to the thread that diakonos posted, I was asking consepente89 what he thought about that.

Second, your living in some limbo adhering to some of the law and some of the new covenant. Or because you believe heaven and earth has not passed maybe you perform animals sacrifices still.

You believe Satan presenting himself before God was some poetry writing, and never happened. My kids believe that happened, but you yourself a scholar or a teacher of the sabbath believes not?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

First off I never said you were carnal, that’s your conscience talking not me! Second I was referring to the thread that diakonos posted, I was asking consepente89 what he thought about that.

Second, your living in some limbo adhering to some of the law and some of the new covenant. Or because you believe heaven and earth has not passed maybe you perform animals sacrifices still.

You believe Satan presenting himself before God was some poetry writing, and never happened. My kids believe that happened, but you yourself a scholar or a teacher of the sabbath believes not?

See how you consistently fail to address any points made to you that show you basically don't know what you're talking about?

I gave you the link and even copied and pasted a thorough study on the Coming of the Lord. You ignored it the first time. I mentioned that to you and you said you missed it (how you missed 2 whole pages of an ongoing discussion you were taking part in is curious) and would go back and read it. Then, nothing. Silent running. Weeks later another thread, another discussion, and you start up with this goofball "Well gee, how many second comings are there? Why you've got a third and maybe a fourth coming! Snark snark!"

If you had read what was offered to you, you would have seen AT THE VERY LEAST that your snarky objections were completely addressed and completely dismantled. You would AT LEAST have known there were answers to your objectiins. A REASONABLE person would AT LEAST have taken those responses under consideration. Whether you accept them or not you would at least have noted them and provided reasons why they were erroneous assuming you were unconvinced.

But instead you pretend nothing happened. That is classic behaviour of a person who is refuted and proven wrong, but cannot accept such a thing (because pride?) so they just IGNORE anything that actually demonstrates they are in error. Sad.

Then, while ignoring what was given to you, you habitually go off on red herrings and tangents that have NOTHING to do with anything being discussed. It's called "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain." Why? Because you can't support your doctrines with anything but distractions and ad hominems. Which means your doctrines you are promoting are nonsense.

My conscience? Dude get a grip. You constantly tell everyone you are spiritual, you see things spiritually, you believe in the spirit, blah blah blah. You always bring that up when people don't buy what you're selling. Ergo you think everyone who disagrees with you is NOT SPIRITUAL. If that isn't carnal/fleshly then nothing is.

This is why I pretty much ceased engaging you in serious discourse. You aren't serious. You can't defend your doctrines, you scoff at people who expect to see Scriptural backing for what you're peddling, you toot your "I'm more spiritual than y'all are" horn, AD NAUSEUM.

Normally you'd just be on the pay no mind list. But because you seem to put yourself out here as a preacher and teacher, then you are SUBJECT TO REVIEW.