Gay people in Church

Steve Epley · #1 06-17-2007, 12:28 PM

I will get executed I guess but this is a sincere question. I know from scripture that homosexuals can be saved(1Cor. 6:9-11) however has anyone ever known one changing and staying changed? I haven't I would just like to know if anyone personally knows of one changing and maintaining their 'straight' stance for a good period of time?? Again NOT saying it can't be done we have scripture 'where such were some of you.' Just asking for personal experience?

#2 06-17-2007, 12:33 PM

Bro Epley, I concur with you here. I too believe that it is possible for them to get saved, but to date have not met one that has STAYED saved.
I too am curious...

NI

#3 06-17-2007, 12:59 PM

It is sin nature. It has been proven time and again sinners go back to their sin. Alochol and drugs are a lot easier to hide than a "lifestyle." Just my thoughts......

ManOfWord · #4 06-17-2007, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I will get executed I guess but this is a sincere question. I know from scripture that homosexuals can be saved(1Cor. 6:9-11) however has anyone ever known one changing and staying changed? I haven't I would just like to know if anyone personally knows of one changing and maintaining their 'straight' stance for a good period of time?? Again NOT saying it can't be done we have scripture 'where such were some of you.' Just asking for personal experience?

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Originally Posted by NobodyImportant

Bro Epley, I concur with you here. I too believe that it is possible for them to get saved, but to date have not met one that has STAYED saved.
I too am curious...

NI

Well, yes, I do personally know a couple who were radically in the lifestyle and have been out of it for years.

As far as treating "them" is concerned, if they come to NLC, they get a hug from me know matter who they are. This is no different from a convicted felon, murderer, etc. Every person in bondage needs set free. Only the love, blood and word of Jesus can do that.

If we differentiate in our treatment of sinners, we will become prejudiced in our treatment of each other as well. For instance, Sis. Suzie cuts her hair and this is the ONLY thing she has done that is contrary to her church. Sis. Suzie will no longer be Sis. Suzie.....she will instantly be Miss Suzie. A saint today, an ain't tomorrow.

These things ought not to be.

Steve Epley · #5 06-17-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Well, yes, I do personally know a couple who were radically in the lifestyle and have been out of it for years.

As far as treating "them" is concerned, if they come to NLC, they get a hug from me know matter who they are. This is no different from a convicted felon, murderer, etc. Every person in bondage needs set free. Only the love, blood and word of Jesus can do that.

If we differentiate in our treatment of sinners, we will become prejudiced in our treatment of each other as well. For instance, Sis. Suzie cuts her hair and this is the ONLY thing she has done that is contrary to her church. Sis. Suzie will no longer be Sis. Suzie.....she will instantly be Miss Suzie. A saint today, an ain't tomorrow.

These things ought not to be.

If I hug a homo I want to really know he is an ex sure enough!!!!! Sorry that is the way it is.

H2H · #6 06-17-2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

If I hug a homo I want to really know he is an ex sure enough!!!!! Sorry that is the way it is.

To really know.... that could entail alot of testing...

oloroid

UltimateUltraConservative · #7 06-17-2007, 01:28 PM

I can understand that point of view. But, gay people are not going to be attracted or try to force themselves on any of the same sex, just like you would not be attracted to and force yourself and hit on someone of the opposite sex, just because that's which side of the team you play for.

They are people who deserve to be treated the same as anyone else. HOWEVER! If you see a look in their eye that says, "I want you!" yeah, you'd better run!

lol

I have been friends with several people who were gay, and when I was younger, the place I worked had about 40 percent gays. They understood I was not where they were...and there was never a problem.

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

If I hug a homo I want to really know he is an ex sure enough!!!!! Sorry that is the way it is.

Steve Epley · #8 06-17-2007, 01:50 PM

I am from the Mid-West my exposure to them has been very little and the story is not pleasant to say the least. However I believe the scriptures and they say they can be saved so I believe the book. I just have not seen it myself. But I rejoice in those who have.

Nahum · #9 06-17-2007, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I will get executed I guess but this is a sincere question. I know from scripture that homosexuals can be saved(1Cor. 6:9-11) however has anyone ever known one changing and staying changed? I haven't I would just like to know if anyone personally knows of one changing and maintaining their 'straight' stance for a good period of time?? Again NOT saying it can't be done we have scripture 'where such were some of you.' Just asking for personal experience?

Yes, I know of someone who has lived an overcoming life for two decades.