It will take force of arms to remain free.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by TJJJ

Gotta agree with Esaias on this one. The fundamental problems that caused this event are still in place and have not changed.

Abortion is still legal, sin is still running rampant, nothing has changed except the USA is still heading towards judgment just as fast as it can go.

Now, will we see violence? Absolutely. That is part of judgment. Should the Church be a part of that? Absolutely not. We are of another nation, the Church.

What do Christians, who advocate violent revolution, do with Matthew 5 where Jesus says..."The MEEK shall inherit the earth"?

How about... "Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the children of God"?

We don't take our cues from national figures of 250 years ago who were masons... we take our orders from Jesus Christ who is the King of kings.

Sorry to the rebels but this armed insurrection is not going to end well.

Time to get the buttery popcorn out and watch the show, things are getting interesting.

People defending the Constitution is not "armed insurrection." They will be stopping an insurrection. But you are free to sit by and spiritualize your apathy while the rest of us give our lives so you can do so.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Originalist

People defending the Constitution is not "armed insurrection." They will be stopping an insurrection. But you are free to sit by and spiritualize your apathy while the rest of us give our lives so you can do so.

Deuteronomy 28:15,25 KJV
But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee: ... [25] The Lord shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.

A just war requires a just people. We haven't got there just yet. A bit more groundwork has to be laid, otherwise the attempt will be abortive.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Deuteronomy 28:15,25 KJV
But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee: ... [25] The Lord shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.

A just war requires a just people. We haven't got there just yet. A bit more groundwork has to be laid, otherwise the attempt will be abortive.

Yet God allowed the very nation this was specifically addressed to to be reconstituted. There are many more than 10 righteous here. Biden is a result of Apathy, not God.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Yet God allowed the very nation this was specifically addressed to to be reconstituted. There are many more than 10 righteous here. Biden is a result of Apathy, not God.

So you are saying you are willing to go to war when not right with God? That you expect God to fight for a movement that is in rebellion to Him and His Word?

Good luck with that.

God reconstituted that nation under Ezra and Nehemia and a national Reformation and Covenanter movement. Oh wait, were you talking about 1948, when the British set up a state specifically for Khazarian antichrist imposters? That wasn't "God fighting for His covenant people, Israel". If anything that is part of certain prophecies concerning Esau's descendants.

See, this is the sad state so many Americans are in. Like I said, good luck with that.

The Boers have better odds, to be honest. The bulk of their current political life and fight for survival at present is being driven by a national recognition of God's Sovereignty and a belief in His Providential control of the situation and a desire to obey His Word.

Americans? The MAGA crowd is primarily driven by a desire for beer, slutty women, and a juvenile Team America muh Country and Western/RocknRoll yeehaw mentality, with Christians as hanger-ons (just like a 1%MC with its hanger-ons).

We have a ways to go before we're ready for prime time.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

So you are saying you are willing to go to war when not right with God? That you expect God to fight for a movement that is in rebellion to Him and His Word?

Good luck with that.

God reconstituted that nation under Ezra and Nehemia and a national Reformation and Covenanter movement. Oh wait, were you talking about 1948, when the British set up a state specifically for Khazarian antichrist imposters? That wasn't "God fighting for His covenant people, Israel". If anything that is part of certain prophecies concerning Esau's descendants.

See, this is the sad state so many Americans are in. Like I said, good luck with that.

The Boers have better odds, to be honest. The bulk of their current political life and fight for survival at present is being driven by a national recognition of God's Sovereignty and a belief in His Providential control of the situation and a desire to obey His Word.

Americans? The MAGA crowd is primarily driven by a desire for beer, slutty women, and a juvenile Team America muh Country and Western/RocknRoll yeehaw mentality, with Christians as hanger-ons (just like a 1%MC with its hanger-ons).

We have a ways to go before we're ready for prime time.

I love America. I love Florida, and I especially love Louisiana


Now politics is another story. Governing powers that be, and our citizens need to repent. But I love this land, this land is my land, this land is your land from Long Island to California. Come to think of it a communist wrote that song and stole the tune of a Christian song. I still like the song and I love this country.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I love America. I love Florida, and I especially love Louisiana


Now politics is another story. Governing powers that be, and our citizens need to repent. But I love this land, this land is my land, this land is your land from Long Island to California. Come to think of it a communist wrote that song and stole the tune of a Christian song. I still like the song and I love this country.

America the Beautiful should be our national anthem.

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by Originalist

People defending the Constitution is not "armed insurrection." They will be stopping an insurrection. But you are free to sit by and spiritualize your apathy while the rest of us give our lives so you can do so.

Show where we can take up arms using the epistles, not the OT.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by diakonos

Show where we can take up arms using the epistles, not the OT.

The epistles affirm the divine authority of the old testament scriptures. Rejecting 2/3rds of the Bible is non Christian.

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by Esaias

The epistles affirm the divine authority of the old testament scriptures. Rejecting 2/3rds of the Bible is non Christian.

Your point?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by diakonos

Your point?

Is obvious.