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Old 12-18-2020, 09:49 AM
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Congress funds, not the White House. In case you hadn't noticed, Trump has been under a non-stop assault since the day he announced his candidacy. Sometimes time restraints require that one choose their battles carefully. Your logic on this matter is flawed. You, and several like you on here should simply adopt the JW mindset on voting and patriotism. The rest of us will put our lives on the line so you can continue to be petty.
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Old 12-18-2020, 10:56 AM
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Congress funds, not the White House. In case you hadn't noticed, Trump has been under a non-stop assault since the day he announced his candidacy. Sometimes time restraints require that one choose their battles carefully. Your logic on this matter is flawed. You, and several like you on here should simply adopt the JW mindset on voting and patriotism. The rest of us will put our lives on the line so you can continue to be petty.
So its OUR fault for believing he would DO what he said he would? He said HE would defund Planned Parenthood. He never said anything about the Congress would do it.

We heard HIM say he was going to make Antifa a terror group. It never happened. But its OUR fault for believing he would do what he said.

But anyway I pray for Trump. I support him OVER the Democomms. I still have hope in GOD.....that HE will show mercy.

We must realize if he does not his judgment is right. America is drowned in sin.
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Old 12-18-2020, 11:08 AM
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So its OUR fault for believing he would DO what he said he would? He said HE would defund Planned Parenthood. He never said anything about the Congress would do it.

We heard HIM say he was going to make Antifa a terror group. It never happened. But its OUR fault for believing he would do what he said.

But anyway I pray for Trump. I support him OVER the Democomms. I still have hope in GOD.....that HE will show mercy.

We must realize if he does not his judgment is right. America is drowned in sin.
Is he supernatural? Can he do more in his waking time than any other mortal man? Does he not have lawyers examining things so he can lawfully do things? You are holding him to a standard you would never hold yourself to.

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Old 12-18-2020, 11:26 AM
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Is he supernatural? Can he do more in his waking time than any other mortal man? Does he not have lawyers examining things so he can lawfully do things? You are holding him to a standard you wold never hold yourself to.
Let it be for our learning. Politicians make BIG promises! They should always preface them with "I will do such and such.....if Congress will do it"! "I will definitely do such and such....if the SCOTUS is ok with it"!

Then we wont be able to hold anyone accountable for not doing what they say they will do.
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Let it be for our learning. Politicians make BIG promises! They should always preface them with "I will do such and such.....if Congress will do it"! "I will definitely do such and such....if the SCOTUS is ok with it"!

Then we wont be able to hold anyone accountable for not doing what they say they will do.
Originalist, Mike is making a simple point.

Everyone says the same thing about their candidate. That they can’t get everything done in their first 4 years. So if the Donald met such opposition as you say, then why isn’t he going to deal with the same or more for his next term? I mean I’d love to agree with you on everything. But what you are saying doesn’t draw a promising conclusion.
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Old 12-18-2020, 11:53 AM
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Originalist, Mike is making a simple point.

Everyone says the same thing about their candidate. That they can’t get everything done in their first 4 years. So if the Donald met such opposition as you say, then why isn’t he going to deal with the same or more for his next term? I mean I’d love to agree with you on everything. But what you are saying doesn’t draw a promising conclusion.
Trump got quite a bit done in his first 4 years. To say otherwise is to be very dishonest.
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Trump got quite a bit done in his first 4 years. To say otherwise is to be very dishonest.
It depends on what our priorities were how we see it. My main ones were:

Get rid of abortion. Drain the swamp. Defend the 1st and second amendment. Supreme Court picks.

While he did not promise to END abortion defunding PP would have at least been a "win".

The "swamp" meanwhile is alive and well. Mrs. Clinton "suffered enough" not getting to rule the world. The first amendment has been trashed about 70% as to the public square. DJT has agreed with "red laws" to confiscate guns first then have a trial later.

On these 4 priorities of mine overall I would give him perhaps a "C". So far it looks as if his SC picks were ill advised but it would be hard to tell if someone would actually be a Conservative if appointed.

The Democomms, who are fighters, demand that their picks be TOTALLY LIBERAL. Repubs say they have no litmus test.

But DJT did lower taxes and cut regulations. Same as any Repub would have done. He stood with Israel to his credit and perhaps strengthened the military. Our country is now in debt farther than could ever be imagined so tho jobs were at an all time high that does level out the optimism.

I like that he stood up to the press better than the Repubs before him but name calling and "tweets" wont get the hardest job (in the natural world) done.

Again, I am still for him. I thank God we had Trump instead of the Clintons. We had 4 years more to do what were doing. In his mercy God can do this again. If it is his will.

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Trump got quite a bit done in his first 4 years. To say otherwise is to be very dishonest.
Ok, so like Mike said, politicians should always preface their promises with "I will do such and such.....if Congress will do it! I will definitely do such and such....if the SCOTUS is ok with it!" Bro, the game is rigged, we are serfs, they are the lords and ladies of the Manor. They decide when and if they will allow us into the castle walls when the Mongols invade. Listen, the politicians' job is to sell us utopia whether it's Republican, Democrat, Socialist, or Communist. But there will be no peace among men unless it is brought on through the Holy Ghost. Unless men lay everything at the feet of Jesus Christ, and I do mean everything. The politics of this world will never do a thing for anyone but the leadership. They fill their pockets, and fight their wars with the blood of our children.
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Old 12-18-2020, 02:25 PM
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Originalist, Mike is making a simple point.

Everyone says the same thing about their candidate. That they can’t get everything done in their first 4 years. So if the Donald met such opposition as you say, then why isn’t he going to deal with the same or more for his next term? I mean I’d love to agree with you on everything. But what you are saying doesn’t draw a promising conclusion.
Yeah, I'm not often on Team Michael, but he is spot on with this one.
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The rest of us will put our lives on the line so you can continue to be petty.
You don't even know what you're on about.

Have fun storming the caaaaaastle!

How many swamp creatures did Trump intentionally surround himself with?

You've bought into the same hopeandchange lie the Obamabots bought into.

Operation Warp Speed? Hello? ATF going after pistol braces now? 80% lowers? Hello? Who appointed the head of the ATF again?

Oh but you say his hands are tied? Can't fire his own appointee? But somehow he's gonna pull off a victory against the entire deep state in a month?

Get your story straight. Is he incompetent and impotent? ("He gets so much push back...") Or is he in on it all? ("Trust the plan... two more weeks... 1024D chess...")

Our future security lies in God's hands. We need to be on HIS side, not some politician's. Put your life on the line?

You going to war? Better be prayed up and paid up. So far it's not looking like the MAGA crowd has God's blessing. Because they - like you - are strangely averse to hearing a message that says "Time to actually repent."
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