Mark of the Beast may be only 2 1/2 years away

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

You were taught everyone is judged twice? Weird.

I was asking about the judgment of all the dead.

Do you believe the Bible teaches a judgment of all the dead OTHER than the one mentioned several times in Revelation?

I’ve met Apostolics who believed that when anyone died they immediately went to judgement then either burned in hell, or went to heaven. Then there would be a great white throne of judgement for those at the final end of the earth age. If I remember correctly Elder James LeDeay argued that position. But then again he might of revised his position?

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I’ve met Apostolics who believed that when anyone died they immediately went to judgement then either burned in hell, or went to heaven. Then there would be a great white throne of judgement for those at the final end of the earth age. If I remember correctly Elder James LeDeay argued that position. But then again he might of revised his position?

Never heard of this. Familiar with this:

People go to heaven or hell. If you go to heaven you come back for your body via the rapture.
Then, at the end the people in hell and everyone alive go to the white throne judgment.//
There’s a variation where even the raptured people go to the white throne judgment.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I’ve met Apostolics who believed that when anyone died they immediately went to judgement then either burned in hell, or went to heaven. Then there would be a great white throne of judgement for those at the final end of the earth age. If I remember correctly Elder James LeDeay argued that position. But then again he might of revised his position?

I have of course heard the nearly ubiquitous preaching that upon death one goes to heaven or hell. Then, the preaching about the white throne judgment and all mankind being judged. I NEVER heard anyone explain how people go to heaven or hell before being judged, in spite of my numerous questions. I also never heard anyone actually lay out that there are two judgments for everyone, one at death, and one at Judgment Day.

I have however heard a standard Protestant claim that upon death the soul goes to either hell (hades) or heaven, and gets a "taste" of their future judgment. At the judgment Day the wicked in hades get tossed into Gehenna and the saints go back to heaven.

None of that ever made any sense to me.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I have of course heard the nearly ubiquitous preaching that upon death one goes to heaven or hell. Then, the preaching about the white throne judgment and all mankind being judged. I NEVER heard anyone explain how people go to heaven or hell before being judged, in spite of my numerous questions. I also never heard anyone actually lay out that there are two judgments for everyone, one at death, and one at Judgment Day.

I have however heard a standard Protestant claim that upon death the soul goes to either hell (hades) or heaven, and gets a "taste" of their future judgment. At the judgment Day the wicked in hades get tossed into Gehenna and the saints go back to heaven.

None of that ever made any sense to me.

This is what meta AI responded when asked:

The Bible teaches both! According to Christian eschatology, believers will experience eternal life in two stages:

1. *Heaven* (Intermediate State): After death, believers' souls go to heaven, where they will be in the presence of God (2 Corinthians 5:8, Philippians 1:23). This is an intermediate state, often referred to as the "intermediate heaven."
2. *New Earth* (Eternal State): After the return of Christ and the final judgment, believers will be reunited with their resurrected bodies, and God will create a *New Heaven and a New Earth* (Revelation 21:1-4, Isaiah 65:17-25). This is the eternal state, where believers will live in the presence of God forever.

So, to summarize: believers will experience eternal life in heaven (intermediate state) and later on the new earth (eternal state).

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I have of course heard the nearly ubiquitous preaching that upon death one goes to heaven or hell. Then, the preaching about the white throne judgment and all mankind being judged. I NEVER heard anyone explain how people go to heaven or hell before being judged, in spite of my numerous questions. I also never heard anyone actually lay out that there are two judgments for everyone, one at death, and one at Judgment Day.

I have however heard a standard Protestant claim that upon death the soul goes to either hell (hades) or heaven, and gets a "taste" of their future judgment. At the judgment Day the wicked in hades get tossed into Gehenna and the saints go back to heaven.

None of that ever made any sense to me.

I have heard the same thing but out of the mouths of Pentecostals. Yet, we all must agree that Apostolic Pentecostals believe in a huge amount of modified eschatologies. Brother Irvin Baxter Jr was a Pre Tribber who just placed the rapture after the tribulation. I've heard of Pentecostal purgatories, to old Sister Cheesy Cornbake looking down from heaven and praying for the congregation. People got some interesting thoughts.