And use caution. Watch them to see if they are truly allowing God to change them.
I agree that we should reach out to homosexuals, and that they can be saved.
Adult homosexuality is largely the result of childhood sexual abuse. Old patterns die hard. The mainstream presentation of homosexuals is that of witty, successful, and monogamous people. The truth is a little more seedy. Homosexuals have a greater propensity for multiple partners and child predation than do heterosexuals. I'm not making a blanket statement, just suggesting there is greater risk. The reason that the homosexuals coined the term 'homophobia' is so that we'll lower our guard to avoid appearing reactionary.
Churches should have plans in place to deal with this, in the interest of protecting the children and the corporate liability for crimes that take place on church property where negligence can be proved.
Cross-dressers and transvestites, usually homosexual, present an especially pernicious problem. They might be dressed as a woman, or have the body of a woman, but there in the ladies room they are looking at your little daughter with a man's eyes. How are you going to deal with that?
Are you going to sacrifice your children's safety, health, purity, and possible future salvation in the interests of not offending a sexual deviant? In the interests of not interrupting their spiritual journey, hoping that this season of repentance will be the final one?
There is a reason child molesters are stealthy and secretive: they know that even Holy-Ghost-filled preachers can become stone-cold triggermen when they find out somebody has been messing with their kids.
I know there is not a simple solution. But just as I believe that we shouldn't send children into physical battle in the U.S. Army, I believe that we shouldn't send children into spiritual battle either.
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And use caution. Watch them to see if they are truly allowing God to change them.
I agree that we should reach out to homosexuals, and that they can be saved.
Adult homosexuality is largely the result of childhood sexual abuse. Old patterns die hard. The mainstream presentation of homosexuals is that of witty, successful, and monogamous people. The truth is a little more seedy. Homosexuals have a greater propensity for multiple partners and child predation than do heterosexuals. I'm not making a blanket statement, just suggesting there is greater risk. The reason that the homosexuals coined the term 'homophobia' is so that we'll lower our guard to avoid appearing reactionary.
Churches should have plans in place to deal with this, in the interest of protecting the children and the corporate liability for crimes that take place on church property where negligence can be proved.
Cross-dressers and transvestites, usually homosexual, present an especially pernicious problem. They might be dressed as a woman, or have the body of a woman, but there in the ladies room they are looking at your little daughter with a man's eyes. How are you going to deal with that?
Are you going to sacrifice your children's safety, health, purity, and possible future salvation in the interests of not offending a sexual deviant? In the interests of not interrupting their spiritual journey, hoping that this season of repentance will be the final one?
There is a reason child molesters are stealthy and secretive: they know that even Holy-Ghost-filled preachers can become stone-cold triggermen when they find out somebody has been messing with their kids.
I know there is not a simple solution. But just as I believe that we shouldn't send children into physical battle in the U.S. Army, I believe that we shouldn't send children into spiritual battle either.
No not a problem for me. Transvestites and crossdressers would have no personal contact with my children.
No not a problem for me. Transvestites and crossdressers would have no personal contact with my children.
Actually, you can't say that. It's not like they wear a sign on their backs.
Truth is, we don't know who could be gay, transvestite, crossdresser, or what have you. They don't always look like those who show up on the Jerry Springer show.
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And use caution. Watch them to see if they are truly allowing God to change them.
I agree that we should reach out to homosexuals, and that they can be saved.
Adult homosexuality is largely the result of childhood sexual abuse. Old patterns die hard. The mainstream presentation of homosexuals is that of witty, successful, and monogamous people. The truth is a little more seedy. Homosexuals have a greater propensity for multiple partners and child predation than do heterosexuals. I'm not making a blanket statement, just suggesting there is greater risk. The reason that the homosexuals coined the term 'homophobia' is so that we'll lower our guard to avoid appearing reactionary.
Churches should have plans in place to deal with this, in the interest of protecting the children and the corporate liability for crimes that take place on church property where negligence can be proved.
Cross-dressers and transvestites, usually homosexual, present an especially pernicious problem. They might be dressed as a woman, or have the body of a woman, but there in the ladies room they are looking at your little daughter with a man's eyes. How are you going to deal with that?
Are you going to sacrifice your children's safety, health, purity, and possible future salvation in the interests of not offending a sexual deviant? In the interests of not interrupting their spiritual journey, hoping that this season of repentance will be the final one?
There is a reason child molesters are stealthy and secretive: they know that even Holy-Ghost-filled preachers can become stone-cold triggermen when they find out somebody has been messing with their kids.
I know there is not a simple solution. But just as I believe that we shouldn't send children into physical battle in the U.S. Army, I believe that we shouldn't send children into spiritual battle either.
The bigger question is, how will you even know they are such? It's not like they all go around advertising.
There have been children molested in the church by ushers and other 'saints'. They didn't wear signs either, and nobody had a clue until it happened more than once.
The safe thing to do is make sure your children are with you at all times.
Even when in church.
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Actually, you can't say that. It's not like they wear a sign on their backs.
Truth is, we don't know who could be gay, transvestite, crossdresser, or what have you. They don't always look like those who show up on the Jerry Springer show.
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The bigger question is, how will you even know they are such? It's not like they all go around advertising.
There have been children molested in the church by ushers and other 'saints'. They didn't wear signs either, and nobody had a clue until it happened more than once.
The safe thing to do is make sure your children are with you at all times.
Even when in church.
Point well taken. That is why I am cautious of most everyone even those in church. I would be lying however if I would say I am not overly cautious with any known sexual deviants, homosexual or not, saved or unsaved. I know Chan will likely repromend my "bias in the body of Christ". That is something to consider too....
PS Sometimes you can tell the difference! Many of these wannabe-the-other-sexers have cheap surgens & poor quality hormone treatment... cause I can spot'um. Makes me wonder though - if there was some I did not spot.
Point well taken. That is why I am cautious of most everyone even those in church. I would be lying however if I would say I am not overly cautious with any known sexual deviants, homosexual or not, saved or unsaved. I know Chan will likely repromend my "bias in the body of Christ". That is something to consider too....
PS Sometimes you can tell the difference! Many of these wannabe-the-other-sexers have cheap surgens & poor quality hormone treatment... cause I can spot'um. Makes me wonder though - if there was some I did not spot.
I, too, don't trust church people in general, and I watch the SS kids like a hawk when I'm there!
As for spotting them, one still can't be too sure. I've seen some ugly women! I've also seen pretty men. I've also seen one or the other where I wasn't exactly sure what they were!
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I, too, don't trust church people in general, and I watch the SS kids like a hawk when I'm there!
Where does the BIBLE tell you it's okay to treat people with distrust (and, thus, suspicion)?
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As for spotting them, one still can't be too sure. I've seen some ugly women! I've also seen pretty men. I've also seen one or the other where I wasn't exactly sure what they were!
I've also known heterosexual men who did cross-dressing as a form of sexual gratification. Who knows? One of them could show up in your church in female clothing.
Where does the BIBLE tell you it's okay to treat people with distrust (and, thus, suspicion)?
I've also known heterosexual men who did cross-dressing as a form of sexual gratification. Who knows? One of them could show up in your church in female clothing.
1 Corinthians 5:11 - 13 (KJV) 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
How can you put out a brother that is acting wickedly if you don't know they are acting wickedly? Wouldn't you have to see their actions and judge them to be behaving wickedly?
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1 Corinthians 5:11 - 13 (KJV) 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
How can you put out a brother that is acting wickedly if you don't know they are acting wickedly? Wouldn't you have to see their actions and judge them to be behaving wickedly?
But we're not talking about people who ARE acting wickedly, we're talking about treating people with suspicion in case they act wickedly. I can't believe that you would interpret the passage you quoted to mean that we should be watching each other to see if we're acting wickedly. The context of the passage indicates that we would know whether someone was claiming to be a Christian but was living a sinful lifestyle.
Where does the BIBLE tell you it's okay to treat people with distrust (and, thus, suspicion)?
Chan, to quote you.....'show me where I said I treat people with distrust'.
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I've also known heterosexual men who did cross-dressing as a form of sexual gratification. Who knows? One of them could show up in your church in female clothing.
I've seen worse!
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