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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
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Originally Posted by donfriesen1
Ro14 was written for a guy like Dom. Dom says Ro14 is only about one view, his view. His view should then be the only view people hold - the 'weak' saint view-- and all other views he will put down. Thus, Dom limits the limitless God who wants to shine more and more. Dom says donfriesen1 is a nutjob with his other-than ideas of Ro14. Thus, Dom, is the 'strong' saint Paul writes about, who should not be ramming, should not dominate the 'weak' one.
My boy, you aren't some sincere new convert, a babe in Christ. Not by a mile. You have been in this long enough to understand the way which you should go. Like I posted to you before, you are trying to dance the idea in front of Pastor Doe, that you are a weaker brother, Therefore your ecclesiastical surmisings concerning the Bible should be allowed behind the pulpit. Listen, it's one thing for you to plasture your thoughts on a forum from Dan to Beersheba. It's a whole other thing to subject the nice kind Apostolic brothers and sisters to it as the sit in the pew. Man, I bet you could chew it up for about an hour from behind a pulpit. PePaw, would've checked his watch about five times, while shooting you some looks. MeeMaw trying to be as tolerant as sweet as can be while patty PePaw on the shoulder. She, also giving you a kind stare to hurry it up. Don, you believe in another Paul, and sadly another Jesus.
Dom again shows he is still infatuated with discussing me and not the subject of the thread.
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Originally Posted by donfriesen1
Paul says to accept those with 'contrary conclusions on the same scripture'.
We aren't told which holy days they were wanting to observe. The issue isn't about a holy carnivore diet vs a holy vegan diet. It was about new converts afraid of eating meat offered to idols. Therefore they refused to eat meat, but chose to only eat let's say, beans. Because in that way they couldn't possibly ever eat meat offered to demons,
1 Corinthians 10:20. Jude is dealing with antinomianism! Does Jude ever mention the words "weaker brethren" who would bring in teachings of sexual immorality? Jude, doesn't. He is addressing the problem of false elders who had secretly entered the church and were promoting ungodly behavior, specifically turning "the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ." (
Jude 1:4). He describes these individuals as "ungodly people," "mutterers and complainers, living by their own lusts," "worldly people, devoid of the Spirit," not as "weaker brethren." His focus is on confronting and condemning those who actively spread corrupting doctrine and practice, rather than the sensitive consciences of newly converted believers.
Good exegesis again Dom, again avoiding the main topic of the thread. Why avoid?
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Originally Posted by donfriesen1
Dom contradicts the teaching of Ro14 when saying his job is to mock and ridicule donfriesen1 for bringing his more and more ideas to AFF. 'Those with revelations from the same scripture, which do not contradict the Truth of the Bible but contradict mine, should not write them here' is what reflects the tenor of Dom's words. As such, he shows he thinks he is AFF's cop.
I'm just following the scripture
1 Kings 18:27. Please remember you have posted that you desire a word-serving position. Therefore you fancy yourself as a preacher, a breaker of the bread, and giver of milk to the babe? So, the scripture says in
1 John 4:1 "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world."
John offers good advice all should follow. Therefore Don, since you aren't newly minted convert, and you've been in church for awhile. We can go up one side of you and down the other, concerning your thoughts.
Plz, do so. And start by showing the conclusions I've presented, as based on error. Your saying those things (which I've agreed to as true) has yet to show the error of methodology I've used as wrong. If you are an ecclesiastical knucklehead, which you are, then mocking is forthwith.
Don, but be of good cheer, I will have you to know I've been on both ends of this dog. The friendly wagging end, and the chewing end. Elders have to take it like a man, because sometimes you are the windshield and sometimes you are the bug. This is a bg beautiful world, filled with all sorts of opinions. You will run into brethren of like special faith who will disagree with you, who disagree with me. I've been on forums since Brother Jim Yohe first asked me to join his forum Faith Child Forum. Little did I know what I would bump into posting back then. I never tried to cop out with "be nice to me fellas, I'm just a weaker brethren. Please hold me" Ah, no. You believe what you believe? You believe it's thus saith the Lord? You believe it's biscuits and gravy from Heaven? OK, but others won't, and I don't. So, if you get a spiritual black eye from the brethren, especially from Pastor John Doe, take it.
Proverbs 29:1 says it plain, "whoever stubbornly refuses to accept criticism will suddenly be destroyed beyond recovery." You had Esaias, Amanah, Tithmister, Votivesoul, dikonos kindly and gently critique your thoughts.
Awesome! Critique of another's opinions is a healthy exercise none but the proud refuse. Those who refuse to do so civilly; who resort to name-calling for the most part; who resort to character degradation for the most part; those who identify others as sons of Baal when these are seen sharing scripture; when for many many posts they present no scripture or scriptural thought to counter those who identify themselves as Apostolic by sharing scripture and Apostolic thought and scriptural thought doing so, do not reveal theological arguments. They didn't bounce you on your head
These who you mention are they who you say are your friends, and they model for you ways which you do not emulate, despising their example. like I do, but you know what? You treated them like they desecrated the genie of the lamp.
Esaias got a little nasty at times, perhaps copying practices he learned from you. I'm no door mat, but if anyone wants to treat me like a door mat, then they may learn that what they use to start with, may be used in return, just like it was with you, Dom. I came new to AFF and did not start off by being snarky. I became snarky after others first became snarky with me. I've then repeatedly badgered those who were first snarky, and continued to badger by asking that they should keep to Bible discussion. But here we are. You've again chosen to deflect from the main point of this thread. So, weep no more my lady. If you can dish it out, you can take it, which means, if you're going to criticize or challenge others, you must also be prepared to handle criticism or challenges directed at you.
Plz, refrain from critiquing my character. Show the thought wrong: that reading between the lines in Ro14 shows truths all should receive. You will then have something of satisfaction to warm your heart, which criticising someones character does not buy.
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