Discrepancy in Church Practice

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

Ro14 was written for a guy like Dom. Dom says Ro14 is only about one view, his view. His view should then be the only view people hold - the 'weak' saint view-- and all other views he will put down. Thus, Dom limits the limitless God who wants to shine more and more. Dom says donfriesen1 is a nutjob with his other-than ideas of Ro14. Thus, Dom, is the 'strong' saint Paul writes about, who should not be ramming, should not dominate the 'weak' one.

I hold the view I hold because it is very simple to understand. I don't need your ecclesiastical ouija board or seer stone with top hat to view something deeper. God is limitless, but He has no problem explaining His rules and reasons to the people He wants to follow Him. It is just that simple. He doesn't have "New Light" He wants to spring on us, that He never gave the first century generation. The Bible can speak to all generations plainly, and doesn't need me, or some Jackleg guru like you to show them the way. Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Him. Maybe you should read John 14:6? Jesus said, My sheep hear My voice, and I KNOW them, and they follow Me: and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of My hand."
Don, those who are of a sincere heart, who love and desire Truth, have the Lord Jesus Christ who will make sure they receive it! Plainly, without fail. He knows His sheep, and they follow Him. Yet, to others He will say I NEVER KNEW you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

Dom again shows he is still infatuated with discussing me and not the subject of the thread.

Don, I am always discussing the topic of the thread. Tell Pastor J. D. I think he is right.

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

Good exegesis again Dom, again avoiding the main topic of the thread. Why avoid?

Yet, you make that statement, but can't seem to prove how I'm not sticking to the subject.

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

Dom contradicts the teaching of Ro14 when saying his job is to mock and ridicule donfriesen1 for bringing his more and more ideas to AFF.

Mock you for bringing more and more ideas to AFF? Where did I ever post that you are mocked because you are bringing more and more ideas to AFF? Don, you better find that quote where I said I mock you "because you are bringing more and more ideas to AFF." You think you are pretty clever? Better find it.

I don't contradict Romans 14 you aren't a new convert weak in the faith and holding opinions on varying little items. You are an old dog, who has been in this movement long enough to know you won't get a pat on the back for teaching that Paul the Apostle was learning as he goes. You get the reception you deserve buddy boy. Now zipper up your sheep suit.

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

'Those with revelations from the same scripture, which do not contradict the Truth of the Bible but contradict mine, should not write them here' is what reflects the tenor of Dom's words. As such, he shows he thinks he is AFF's cop.

Don, get off it. B. Smith didn't know his Bible and therefore Pastor J. D. bought him a ticket to the Island of Lost Toys.

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

John offers good advice all should follow.

That's what is happening. I'm just taking John's advise.

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

Plz, do so. And start by showing the conclusions I've presented, as based on error. Your saying those things (which I've agreed to as true) has yet to show the error of methodology I've used as wrong.

Don, I have. I have done it over and over again. I also have posters who have come forward who agree with me. Don, how about enlisting some of your crew who believe as you, to log on and help you out? How many of the brethren in your church family believe the same as you?

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

Awesome! Critique of another's opinions is a healthy exercise none but the proud refuse. Those who refuse to do so civilly; who resort to name-calling for the most part; who resort to character degradation for the most part; those who identify others as sons of Baal when these are seen sharing scripture; when for many many posts they present no scripture or scriptural thought to counter those who identify themselves as Apostolic by sharing scripture and Apostolic thought and scriptural thought doing so, do not reveal theological arguments.

Don, who are you talking about? Not sharing scripture or scriptural thought? Don, you always resort to lying? Don't revel in theological argument? Don, I say this with the most sincerity I can muster. You are as Apostolic as Ram Dass.

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

These who you mention are they who you say are your friends, and they model for you ways which you do not emulate, despising their example.

Is that a question? Or are you making a statement? Don, what are you trying to say?

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

Esaias got a little nasty at times,

Don? Why is it that you seem to have this affect on others? Esaias presented you book, chapter, and verse. You played the same games you play with one and all. Guess what? You lose credibility and respect with others. You claim Apostolic, but you come off as someone who believes the Bible to be a magic book. Esaias wasn't being nasty, that isn't fair to him.

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

perhaps copying practices he learned from you.

Well, well, well, look at Mr. Don. You have graduated my boy. Now I have less respect for you than I ever had before. This is between you and I. What you said above was a classless act. You are not a brother, and you are certainly not a friend.

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

I'm no door mat,

No, you are just silly man, real silly.

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

but if anyone wants to treat me like a door mat,

Then they have a perfect right to do so. Because Don, goes after posters who aren't even posting. Don, you dish it out? You have to be prepared to take it.

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

then they may learn that what they use to start with, may be used in return, just like it was with you, Dom.

Look, Don is a tiger.

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

I came new to AFF and did not start off by being snarky. I became snarky after others first became snarky with me.

No, Don, you do understand that these posts of ours don't delete after 24 hrs? People can go check what was said in all the threads? How you never hesitated to talk smack. snarky my foot. You lurked AFF for 4 years before coming out. You learned the lay of the land. You talk about me as if you been following me around the forum for sometime? Maybe you should read Votivesouls posts to you, but this time read them slowly. You seem like a slow learner.

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

I've then repeatedly badgered those who were first snarky, and continued to badger by asking that they should keep to Bible discussion. But here we are. You've again chosen to deflect from the main point of this thread.

Deflet from the main point of this thread? Get off that already, you've been proven dishonest on that point.

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

Plz, refrain from critiquing my character.

After what you said about Esaias learning his behavior from me!? You've lost any quarter I would've shown you.

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

Show the thought wrong: that reading between the lines in Ro14 shows truths all should receive.

I have shown your teaching is flawed. I did it again, and again, and again.

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

You will then have something of satisfaction to warm your heart, which criticising someones character does not buy.

I'm always satisfied in knowing that God speaks to His children in perfect clarity, but to those insincere outside the gates, they hear Him only as white noise.