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Old 06-21-2007, 12:18 PM
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I was told that Bro. TW Barnes said there is a gray line between the Spirit and Occult.... and some if they are not careful can cross that line....

Do you think that Branham might have crossed that line in later years??
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Old 06-21-2007, 12:21 PM
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I was told that Bro. TW Barnes said there is a gray line between the Spirit and Occult.... and some if they are not careful can cross that line....

Do you think that Branham might have crossed that line in later years??
Speaking of Bro Barnes, he personally claimed he spoke to Branham sometime before Branham's death, and Branham stated he no longer believed the serpent seed doctrine, and did not know how to stop it.

Barnes believed Branham was saved, though had been wrong but repentant of the wrong before he died.
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Old 06-21-2007, 12:49 PM
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Speaking of Bro Barnes, he personally claimed he spoke to Branham sometime before Branham's death, and Branham stated he no longer believed the serpent seed doctrine, and did not know how to stop it.

Barnes believed Branham was saved, though had been wrong but repentant of the wrong before he died.
That is incorrect he was on his way home to preach on "The Trail of the Serpent" which he was going to bring the serpent seed from Genesis to Revelation it is on tape just a few days before he died. I invite you to call Perry Green pastor of Tucson Tabnernacle Branham said this in his church before leaving on his trip to Indiana. Elders Barnes memory is incorrect. I invite you to listen to the 1965 tapes he preached it publicly in these messages and there are more than a few. The evidence is overwhelming Elder Barnes was incorrect. WHERE did he repent????????????? NOT on tape and NOT in public and he lost consciousness at the wreck and NEVER came to until he died 6 days later. Remember I know the family. Pastor Green was at the hospital all 6 days also. Call him.
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Old 06-21-2007, 12:52 PM
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That is incorrect he was on his way home to preach on "The Trail of the Serpent" which he was going to bring the serpent seed from Genesis to Revelation it is on tape just a few days before he died. I invite you to call Perry Green pastor of Tucson Tabnernacle Branham said this in his church before leaving on his trip to Indiana. Elders Barnes memory is incorrect. I invite you to listen to the 1965 tapes he preached it publicly in these messages and there are more than a few. The evidence is overwhelming Elder Barnes was incorrect. WHERE did he repent????????????? NOT on tape and NOT in public and he lost consciousness at the wreck and NEVER came to until he died 6 days later. Remember I know the family. Pastor Green was at the hospital all 6 days also. Call him.
Well, that is what Bro Barnes said.
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Old 06-21-2007, 05:07 PM
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Well, that is what Bro Barnes said.
Not impugning Elder Barnes but he was definitely incorrect and it can be proven quite easily.
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Old 06-21-2007, 06:00 PM
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Not impugning Elder Barnes but he was definitely incorrect and it can be proven quite easily.
I heard Kenneth Reeves also knew Branham, and said Branham was mistaken, but sincerely mistaken, and believed he was still saved.

Kenneth Hagin wrote a book about THE ANOINTING, and although he never named Branham, anyone who knows Branham's story knew he was speaking of Branham when he wrote about an evangelist. He said this evangelist was mightily used in the supernatural, but went into bizarre teachings. He said Gordon Lindsay tried to help the man realize he was not a Teacher but an Evangelist. And the man responded, "But I like to teach."

Hagin noted Uzziah's error in wanting to be priest as well as king, but how God did not anoint him for priesthood. So God smote Uzziah with leprosy. He said this is what happened to this evangelist.

Before Branham died, Hagin was in a restaurant and the spirit of prophecy came upon him and he told the folks with him they had to leave right away so he could prophesy. The prophecy went something like this,"His works follow him and he shall meet his reward and be saved, but 'ere '66 he shall die."
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I heard Kenneth Reeves also knew Branham, and said Branham was mistaken, but sincerely mistaken, and believed he was still saved.

Kenneth Hagin wrote a book about THE ANOINTING, and although he never named Branham, anyone who knows Branham's story knew he was speaking of Branham when he wrote about an evangelist. He said this evangelist was mightily used in the supernatural, but went into bizarre teachings. He said Gordon Lindsay tried to help the man realize he was not a Teacher but an Evangelist. And the man responded, "But I like to teach."

Hagin noted Uzziah's error in wanting to be priest as well as king, but how God did not anoint him for priesthood. So God smote Uzziah with leprosy. He said this is what happened to this evangelist.

Before Branham died, Hagin was in a restaurant and the spirit of prophecy came upon him and he told the folks with him they had to leave right away so he could prophesy. The prophecy went something like this,"His reward follows him and he shall be saved, but 'ere '66 he shall die."
Hagin has as much credibilty as BH with me. His erroneous teachings are nearly as far off as Branham's. At least Branham baptized in Jesus Name and believed Jesus was God.
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I heard Kenneth Reeves also knew Branham, and said Branham was mistaken, but sincerely mistaken, and believed he was still saved.
You are right.

I spoke to brother Reeves many times. I had breakfast with him the last time only a couple of years before he died. We talked about many things dealing with matters of the supernatural since he was also a man of great experience in these things. KR did not doubt his salvation or his honest sincerety though so mistaken in regards to a couple of matters, especially of the SS doctrine.

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Kenneth Hagin wrote a book about THE ANOINTING, and although he never named Branham, anyone who knows Branham's story knew he was speaking of Branham when he wrote about an evangelist. He said this evangelist was mightily used in the supernatural, but went into bizarre teachings. He said Gordon Lindsay tried to help the man realize he was not a Teacher but an Evangelist. And the man responded, "But I like to teach."
That is also the truth.

However, it was not in regard to the SS doctrine. Gordon Lindsay was dead long before Branham started teaching that horrible doctrine. Lindsay and Branham were best of friends, having been very close associates on the Evangelistic and Missionary fields who together, formed the Voice of Healing. He saw Branham straying from his calling. Lindsay knew that it was only a matter of time before Branham would fall into some error by straying out of his Prophetic calling. If anyone could reach Branham at all, it would have been either Jack Moore or Gordon Lindsay. Jack Moore, a UPCI pastor together with Lindsay attempted to counsel with him. It was then that Branham said that he "wanted to teach."

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Hagin noted Uzziah's error in wanting to be priest as well as king, but how God did not anoint him for priesthood. So God smote Uzziah with leprosy. He said this is what happened to this evangelist.
Reminds me of a certain man whom we all love that "wanted to" step over into the office of a Prophet. Before a very large gathering of UPCI preachers prophecied concerning the "rising again to fill his pulpit and to preach again," a preacher dying with cancer, who never lifted his head off his death pillow. Stepping out of one's own calling is dangerous as noted in the case of Uzziah.

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Before Branham died, Hagin was in a restaurant and the spirit of prophecy came upon him and he told the folks with him they had to leave right away so he could prophesy. The prophecy went something like this,"His works follow him and he shall meet his reward and be saved, but 'ere '66 he shall die."
I never heard this report before, though I am usually up todate on such matters, having known many of the men in those circles in years gone by. It would be interesting to learn the source of this report.

Truly KH was/is a prophet. I do not know if he is still alive or not since I have not had contact with some of these people in quite a few years. But, I would not doubt the story in the least.

It is true, as Elder Epley said, he did not repent of his SS doctrine before his death.

When I got news of his death on Christmas day of 1965, I went into a very mournful state of mind. I wept for many days without ceasing. It seemed that my very soul would come out of me. It would be hard to explain the state that I was in.

I was overseas looking at myself in the mirror trying to shave with tears running down my face. I had been questioning God about his death. One of the few times that I ever heard what I thought was an audible voice spoke to me saying, "My glory I will not give to another." Instantly, I understood. I recalled how so many people adored and worshipped him. Some even baptized in the name of Branham.

From that day forward, my tears dried and I never questioned again.
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