The Difference Between the PCI of the Merger and the Current Counterfeits

Originally Posted by Felicity

Ahhhh yes Bro. Theo! But when is one born of the Spirit? This is the pivotal question.

Glad you asked Sis.

Jesus took care of this question straightway...

John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Now if you break it down in the Greek you'll find that Jesus wasn't speaking of the wind at all, but rather the Spirit. He wasn't speaking of a sound, but a voice. This reference is clearly that of speaking in tongues and becomes obvious as we witness that which we do, starting in Acts and even now, still going in the present. God Bless, Theo.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Theophilus

Glad you asked Sis.

Jesus took care of this question straightway...

John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Now if you break it down in the Greek you'll find that Jesus wasn't speaking of the wind at all, but rather the Spirit. He wasn't speaking of a sound, but a voice. This reference is clearly that of speaking in tongues and becomes obvious as we witness that which we do, starting in Acts and even now, still going in the present. God Bless, Theo.

Yes, I've heard that interpretation but I can't accept it. There's nothing in that Scripture to connect the blowing of the wind with tongue talking.

The wind of the Spirit blows where it will and this is for sure. It blew on me when I was 6 years of age and there was immediate response from me in that my mind, heart, will and emotions turned to God in belief and repentance. However, there were no tongues at that point.

They came 9 years later!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Yes, I've heard that interpretation but I don't accept it.

There's nothing in that Scripture to connect the blowing of the wind with tongue talking.

The wind of the Spirit blows where it will and this is for sure. It blew on me when I was 6 years of age and there was immediate response from me in that my mind, heart, will and emotions turned to God in belief and repentance. However, there were no tongues at that point.

They came 9 years later!

Great testimony ... nothing like being born of God.

Originally Posted by Felicity

Yes, I've heard that interpretation but I don't accept it.

There's nothing in that Scripture to connect the blowing of the wind with tongue talking.

The wind of the Spirit blows where it will and this is for sure. It blew on me when I was 6 years of age and there was immediate response from me in that my mind, heart, will and emotions turned to God in belief and repentance. However, there were no tongues at that point.

They came 9 years later!

That is your choice.

Check out the Greek, Jesus said nothing of the wind. It's a misinterpretation. The topic of the passage is Spirit, Jesus never deviated from it with His word use.

The word interpretted wind, is the same word Jesus was using for Spirit. The only ones that go off on some wind tangent are the nonSpirit filled interpreters that didn't get it. The Greek word for bloweth refers to breathing.

Joh 20:22 - And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

Yet they didn't receive the Holy Ghost until Pentecost. This was a simple forshadowing.

Back to John 3:8, The word for sound is the Greek word for voice.

He's talking to Nicodemus about a voice that you can't understand that you hear. So is everyone born of the Spirit. We've seen it ever since Pentecost.

I'm sure that God touched your life at an early age, but we see evidence of such a thing in the Word even when people didn't receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. God Bless, Theo.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Theophilus

That is your choice.

Check out the Greek, Jesus said nothing of the wind. It's a misinterpretation. The topic of the passage is Spirit, Jesus never deviated from it with His word use.

The word interpretted wind, is the same word Jesus was using for Spirit. The only ones that go off on some wind tangent are the nonSpirit filled interpreters that didn't get it. The Greek word for bloweth refers to breathing.

Joh 20:22 - And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

Yet they didn't receive the Holy Ghost until Pentecost. This was a simple forshadowing.

Back to John 3:8, The word for sound is the Greek word for voice.

He's talking to Nicodemus about a voice that you can't understand that you hear. So is everyone born of the Spirit. We've seen it ever since Pentecost.

I'm sure that God touched your life at an early age, but we see evidence of such a thing in the Word even when people didn't receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. God Bless, Theo.

Ignore 1 John .. you're call, Theo ...

Felicity ... Theo doesn't think you would have entered the Kingdom at age 6 .... if God, forbid you would have gone home ... but I do ....and His Word does too. He just thinks you were touched by God.

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Ignore 1 John .. you're call, Theo ...

Felicity ... Theo doesn't think you would have entered the Kingdom at age 6 .... if God, forbid you would have gone home ... but I do ....and His Word does too. He just thinks you were touched by God.

I'm not ignoring anything, rather taking all into account.

I was touched many times before I received His Spirit.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Theophilus

I'm not ignoring anything, rather taking all into account.

I was touched many times before I received His Spirit.

Theo ... you're right ... will you sing w/ me .... click here for accompaniment

1. Sing the wondrous love of Jesus;
sing his mercy and his grace.
In the mansions bright and blessed
he'll prepare for us a place.

Refrain:
When we all get to heaven,
what a day of rejoicing that will be!
When we all see Jesus,
we'll sing and shout the victory!

2. While we walk the pilgrim pathway,
clouds will overspread the sky;
but when traveling days are over,
not a shadow, not a sigh.
(Refrain)

3. Let us then be true and faithful,
trusting, serving every day;
just one glimpse of him in glory
will the toils of life repay.
(Refrain>

4. Onward to the prize before us!
Soon his beauty we'll behold;
soon the pearly gates will open;
we shall tread the streets of gold.
(Refrain)