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Old 07-02-2007, 06:41 AM
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Rico, did you not read where the epistle said that holiness was to be in every area of life. Is not scripture enough? All means all. Without exception. You cannot be holy in one area, and not in the rest and still be considered holy in the eyes of Jesus.

The proof is given. You simply refuse to see it.
You still have not shown that holiness includes following your idea of a dress code, Bro Price. The reason being you can't. It's just your perception, and other's, of what holiness is. Frankly, I think y'all have cheapened the meaning of holiness with so much focus being placed on what people wear.
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:39 AM
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You still have not shown that holiness includes following your idea of a dress code, Bro Price. The reason being you can't. It's just your perception, and other's, of what holiness is. Frankly, I think y'all have cheapened the meaning of holiness with so much focus being placed on what people wear.
Rico, cheapened holiness? You must have forgotten who you are speaking to. This is the guy who has been all over the map, who has fell for every wind of doctrine out there, even "standardless holiness". I have been there. There is no holiness. They try to have a good attitude, but they most have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof. This is one area I am somewhat thankful for what I have been through.

Holiness must be inward, yes. But, if it is not outer as well, then it is not true holiness. I have known people to have the outer standards and not have it inwardly. This is about 5% of the saints I have experienced. The rest have it down pat.

The scriptures presented show forth that holiness is in every area of life. Dress is included. You must be holy in all, or you are not holy at all, period. You want to limit it to inward, which truly cheapens it. If it is truly in you, then it will come out of you. If it is in your heart, you will simply stop being like the world.

Also [I desire] that women should adorn themselves modestly and appropriately and sensibly in seemly apparel, not with [elaborate] hair arrangement or gold or pearls or expensive clothing, But by doing good deeds (deeds in themselves good and for the good and advantage of those contacted by them), as befits women who profess reverential fear for and devotion to God. (1 Timothy 2:9-10 AMP)

The woman shall not wear that which pertains to a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment, for all that do so are an abomination to the Lord your God. (Deuteronomy 22:5 AMP)

For I am the Lord, I do not change; that is why you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed. (Malachi 3:6 AMP)

Jesus Christ (the Messiah) is [always] the same, yesterday, today, [yes] and forever (to the ages). (Hebrews 13:8 AMP)

If God said it was an abomination before, this does not change. He does not change. Or, shall we say that God has now changed His mind on what He hates?

Sorry Rico, but it is still holiness in all, or nothing is holy at all.
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:53 AM
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Rico, cheapened holiness? You must have forgotten who you are speaking to. This is the guy who has been all over the map, who has fell for every wind of doctrine out there, even "standardless holiness". I have been there. There is no holiness. They try to have a good attitude, but they most have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof. This is one area I am somewhat thankful for what I have been through.

Holiness must be inward, yes. But, if it is not outer as well, then it is not true holiness. I have known people to have the outer standards and not have it inwardly. This is about 5% of the saints I have experienced. The rest have it down pat.

The scriptures presented show forth that holiness is in every area of life. Dress is included. You must be holy in all, or you are not holy at all, period. You want to limit it to inward, which truly cheapens it. If it is truly in you, then it will come out of you. If it is in your heart, you will simply stop being like the world.

Also [I desire] that women should adorn themselves modestly and appropriately and sensibly in seemly apparel, not with [elaborate] hair arrangement or gold or pearls or expensive clothing, But by doing good deeds (deeds in themselves good and for the good and advantage of those contacted by them), as befits women who profess reverential fear for and devotion to God. (1 Timothy 2:9-10 AMP)

The woman shall not wear that which pertains to a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment, for all that do so are an abomination to the Lord your God. (Deuteronomy 22:5 AMP)

For I am the Lord, I do not change; that is why you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed. (Malachi 3:6 AMP)

Jesus Christ (the Messiah) is [always] the same, yesterday, today, [yes] and forever (to the ages). (Hebrews 13:8 AMP)

If God said it was an abomination before, this does not change. He does not change. Or, shall we say that God has now changed His mind on what He hates?

Sorry Rico, but it is still holiness in all, or nothing is holy at all.
Brother, I don't see anyone arguing against modesty. This is something people like you never seem to acknowledge. I have yet to see anyone on these forums argue in favor of immodesty in dressing. The argument is against legislating what modesty means by coming up with these ridiculous dress codes. You can't wear this, you have to wear that, that sort of thing. That's what I meant by asking for a documented sermon or proof on what early Christians believed. Show me where your idea of women not wearing pants is the same as what they believed back then. Show me where they preached against short sleeves. Show me where they preached any of these supposed holiness dress standards that have become the litmus test for holiness today. If it was as important as some of you make it sound then surely y'all could find some proof, even historical proof.
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:32 PM
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You still have not shown that holiness includes following your idea of a dress code, Bro Price. The reason being you can't. It's just your perception, and other's, of what holiness is. Frankly, I think y'all have cheapened the meaning of holiness with so much focus being placed on what people wear.
Rico~ How can one give proof when there is none to back it up! Like many things in this life man will try to find a loop hole to get into Heaven , other then through Gods perfect Agape and Grace (Jesus)! The fact is they don't trust God! They seek after a sign, a dress one...Sad really~
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