I'd like to see some proof, either scriptural or historical, that shows early Christians dressed differently than the people around them. Just give me one documented clothesline message from that time frame, just one. It saddens me that the apostolic church has taken one of the most sacred aspects of living for God, namely holiness, and reduced it to a dress code.
Rico,
This is a liberal strawman! If all of society was modest we, today, would dress no differently than the rest of society. I can assure you that IF there were identifying dress standards for the ungodly in scripture, none of the early church would have dared to dress like the ungodly.
I find it sad that you and others would dare to reduce the apostolic church to one that has reduced one of the most sacred aspects of living for God, namely holiness, and reduced it to a dress code! Your statement is unintentionally false, but false never-the-less!
This is a liberal strawman! If all of society was modest we, today, would dress no differently than the rest of society. I can assure you that IF there were identifying dress standards for the ungodly in scripture, none of the early church would have dared to dress like the ungodly.
I find it sad that you and others would dare to reduce the apostolic church to one that has reduced one of the most sacred aspects of living for God, namely holiness, and reduced it to a dress code! Your statement is unintentionally false, but false never-the-less!
How does devaluing the sacred cow(standards) have anything to do with holiness? That is a statement of huge misguided proportions - the two have NOTHING in common!
interestingly enough TF quotes Tertullian who was a HUGE TRINITARIAN...
Does that not seem totally hypocritical?
And that has what to do with anything?
I think that was your point a couple of posts ago!
You need to re-read my post to Rico... maybe if you read it a few times you will understand it because you obviously did not understand it the first time.
Broad brush false statements (whether intentional or not) are always open for challenge... that was the point of my post!
Perhaps you had a problem with my reuse of his words of attack in my defense.
Perhaps you had a problem with my reuse of his words of attack in my defense.
Actually, I thought it was cute. The fact still remains that certain aspects of the apostolic church have made dress standards the test for measuring holiness, as if holiness could ever be measured in the first place. Holiness is a state of being, not a state of dress, Brother. I am sure you already know that though. What gives you, as a preacher, the right to define modesty for me or my wife? It, modesty, is an issue between me and God, period. If your conscience won't allow you to wear short sleeves then so be it. Knock yourself out. But why should I be obligated to obey your conscience when my conscience finds nothing wrong with short sleeves. If you don't wear short sleeves unto the Lord and I have no problem with short sleeves unto the Lord, then aren't we both serving God with all our hearts? BTW, I have no idea where you stand on short sleeves. I am just using it as an example.
You never read trinitarian books? Not even Rick Warren??? wow you are Holy indeed.
As noted I am basically a trinitarian... and by the way I don't read Rick Warren...
The point is for someone who loathes trinitarians, I find it funny he would reference the intellect and thoughts of one in his sermon... he uses the status, and credibility of Tertullian to give strength to his argument ...seems funny to me
As noted I am basically a trinitarian... and by the way I don't read Rick Warren...
The point is for someone who loathes trinitarians, I find it funny he would reference the intellect and thoughts of one in his sermon... he uses the status, and credibility of Tertullian to give strength to his argument ...seems funny to me
You assume too much.I know Brother Tenny.He was my dist supt when I lived in La and yes I was licensed there.He does not loathe trinitarians.You are under the wrong assumption.
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