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Old 07-09-2007, 05:03 PM
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Let me state unequvialically, I believe in Verbal Bean's ministry, I have had the pleasure of fellowshipping with his Family.

He was a unique prophet/preacher.

But after thinking about him for some time I would like to share my opinions about this message and about him.

The gist of his message was about rebellion against God, that was manifested in Laurel with very specific applications that were meant in mho locally. They should not be applied across the board in every situation.

Their issue was rebellion against God that was manifested in rising up against the local pastor/preacher.

I think you don't have to necessarily buy into the applications of what he did in that local setting and at the same time be considered to be rebellious and deserving of rebuke/judgment.

But rebellion/refusal to submit to God's ways (which by the way means submitting to righteousness of JC as a free gift, instead of trying to earn it apart from him) manifested in any way is deserving of rebuke, and if unrepentant judgement, no matter what form it takes.

A previous church that I pastored went through the same situation, and they ran me off for the same reasons. And it is my understanding they no longer even exist after running off 2 other preachers.
Keith,

I agree that there are places that the pew chews up preachers and spits the out, I have seen it and it is not right in any way.

However I cannot embrace the approach nor the focus of what is heard on the "Scummy Pot" tape. It is a message of intimidation and fear, it places in people to serve God out of fear of damnation, death and disease.

How many folks have left and are scared to death to return to any relationship with God. How many have gone insane under the influence of the fear generated by defining God as a monster. Gratefully that is not the approach nor focus of true biblical ministry. May God continue to guide the church out of the dark ages.
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