Wow coon.....God forbid the Pilgrims came to America.
God forbid our declaration of Indepedence.
The devil and Carnal Authority hate when freedoms are fought for as well.
You have had your bad days with authority......that did not make you carnal.
Coop, if you notice, I specified "spiritual authority."
The Pilgrims and the Founding Fathers engaged in political resistance.
There is a big difference.
You said, "You have had your bad days with authority......that did not make you carnal..."
I have had times when my flesh chafed at the constraints of authority. Absolutely. And it was just about always a product of carnality when it happened.
I'll tell you what I could do, though--I could give you the names of the three living pastors I have sat under, and you could ask them if I was ever unsubmitted or disrespectful to them, and I know without a doubt what they would tell you.
To this day, as a 37 year old man who has preached nearly twent years and pastored for ten, when my pastor tells me something, I am going to take his advice. Period.
I'll tell you what I could do, though--I could give you the names of the three living pastors I have sat under, and you could ask them if I was ever unsubmitted or disrespectful to them, and I know without a doubt what they would tell you.
To this day, as a 37 year old man who has preached nearly twent years and pastored for ten, when my pastor tells me something, I am going to take his advice. Period
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But seriusly.. This submission to another man/men (that are flesh) makes me cautious in my soul.
I respect to postition of authority in it's self. But I just do not respect and obey any man that claims he is man-o-god.
But seriusly.. This submission to another man/men (that are flesh) makes me cautious in my soul.
I respect to postition of authority in it's self. But I just do not respect and obey any man that claims he is man-o-god.
Spooky if you ask me.
How can you say you respect the position of authority, and then say you would refuse to obey a man that God has put in the place of authority?? I saw both sides of your mouth move when you said that.
Coop, a true man of God is going to challenge you where you are, or he is probably not a true man of God. If he just leaves the saints indifferent and never deals with sin they are allowing in their life, then he needs to get him a paper route and work for a living.
It amazes me that folks want the preacher to preach them saved, and then turn around and reject his message that keeps them saved.
How can you say you respect the position of authority, and then say you would refuse to obey a man that God has put in the place of authority?? I saw both sides of your mouth move when you said that.
Coop, a true man of God is going to challenge you where you are, or he is probably not a true man of God. If he just leaves the saints indifferent and never deals with sin they are allowing in their life, then he needs to get him a paper route and work for a living.
It amazes me that folks want the preacher to preach them saved, and then turn around and reject his message that keeps them saved.
Now that was a powerful mouthfull Saint Matt.
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
How can you say you respect the position of authority, and then say you would refuse to obey a man that God has put in the place of authority?? I saw both sides of your mouth move when you said that.
Coop, a true man of God is going to challenge you where you are, or he is probably not a true man of God. If he just leaves the saints indifferent and [b]never deals with sin they are allowing in their life, then he needs to get him a paper route and work for a living.
It amazes me that folks want the preacher to preach them saved, and then turn around and reject his message that keeps them saved.
Brother, I used to be of the mindset that this was the job of a pastor. I quit thinking that way once I realized that it's not his job to police my salvation. I need to be diligent for myself and not expect someone else to do it for me.
It is interesting that three decades after his death, Verbal Bean is still a polarizing and controversial figure.
I have learned a few things in my short life, and one of the things I have learned is that the devil and carnal people hate authority.
A man with great spiritual authority is always going to draw a lot of criticism. Count on it.
When something isnt easy to hear, it becomes more easy to disreguard. It is sad really when one considers that the easy words often bring very little good.
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
When something isnt easy to hear, it becomes more easy to disreguard. It is sad really when one considers that the easy words often bring very little good.
Na, it's easy to hear and understand, what it's saying is mindless and does not take being a rocket science to figure that out!
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