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Old 07-12-2007, 11:45 AM
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Roc, the existance of both occupations and shekels does not mean that
1. Money was never used to pay tithes
2. that everyone had money.
Show me where money was used to give tithes....you wont find it.
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:48 AM
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Show me where money was used to give tithes....you wont find it.
Show me in the bible where every specific item that should be tithed is outlined.

the bible speaks of increase. Money in our age is increase.
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Old 07-12-2007, 12:12 PM
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Show me in the bible where every specific item that should be tithed is outlined.

the bible speaks of increase. Money in our age is increase.

Many Christians think that the only type of of wealth or substance is money. This incorrect thinking, along with other inaccurate teachings on this subject, is the reason this passage is so highly misinterpreted by many believers today. The fact of the matter is, neither this verse nor any other Bible verse supports present day "tithes and offerings"

In Proverbs 3:9 are the words: "Honor the Lord with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase..."

The question becomes, "How does one honor the Lord with his wealth or substance?" To honor the Lord with wealth or show gratitude towards God, one can provide a free will offering...there is no set amount to give in this type of offering.

Exodus 35:5 - "From what you have, take an offering for the LORD. Everyone who is willing is to bring to the LORD an offering of gold, silver and bronze".

Again, there is no set amount in this free will offering. In addition, a person can give a thank offering unto the Lord, or even a gift offering...there are plenty of ways to honor the Lord with their substance or wealth...but this is not the tithe.

Firstly, it is erroneous to consider firstfruit and tithe synonymous terms...accordingly, Proverbs 3:9 does not suggest that a person give 10 percent of his income to the Lord....Secondly, the firstfruit is a food substance, and according to the Bible, the firstfruit is not a specific amount (see Exodus 23:16-19 , Deuteronomy 26:2 , Nehemiah 10:37 and Nehemiah 12:44 )
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Old 07-12-2007, 07:18 PM
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Show me where money was used to give tithes....you wont find it.
Just for my own edification J, since I missed it somewhere in all of this discussion, how would you suggest that the ministry be supported and missionaries sent out if the tithe in the form of money is not supplied to the ministry. Surely you would not suggest supporting the ministry with a bushel of turnips and missionaries by a sack of corn? Or would you?

Just wondering how that would work.
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