Do you believe in modesty

[Polaris]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

BTW do you or anyone else actually have something to say on THIS topic instead of trying to change it to something else?

In the first place Prax, when I got the Holy Ghost, one of the first things God told me to do was to put some clothes on...and I mean in a way that went far beyond what the world calls "normal". So I think that is our first "stop" on the road to clarifying this issue...when you feel self-conscious or get that "under-dressed" feeling, that's probably the spirit of God telling you you don't have enought clothes on (I'm saying "you" in a general sense...not you, personally). My wife, as a new convert, went through this...going to a church gathering and tugging at her sleeves and such...feeling like she was too exposed. I've heard of quite a few people experiencing this awareness of a need for modesty soon after conversion. Of course, this goes totally against what the world calls "normal". Going swimming in mixed company with bathing suits on is no problem for the world. They could go out and mow the lawn in shorts and a tank-top (or no shirt at all) and think that's just fine...but that's what regeneration does for you...the grace of God in your heart teaches you to live soberly, righteously and godly.

Our second "stop" is the word of God. The Bible indicates that exposing one's thigh is nakedness, and this is from ancient times. Even the Old Testament priests had to wear undergarments that extended from the loins to the thighs to prevent someone from seeing up their garments. We'll let the record reflect that the lower part of the legs and the feet didn't seem to be a concern, but above the knee most definitely was. This gives us a feel for what the Biblically sound position would entail.

Finally, the word of God says to "ask for the old paths", and that the younger should submit to the elder, so WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF THE ABOVE, let's look at what Holy Ghost-filled, anointed people of God have felt that God has written on their hearts, and have preached with authority. Holiness-minded people (myself included) have almost universally recognized that taking off one's shirt is nudity, and through the witness of the Holy Ghost, we've had the law of God written in our hearts agreeing with the Bible that exposing the thigh is nakedness. So that is where parameters have come from such as having skirts come past the knees, etc. I know that this doesn't answer EVERY modesty question, but it's a good start.

Taking into account "the Big Three"...how does it square with the Holy Ghost, how does it line-up to the Bible, and what does the consensus of our elders seem to be, goes far beyond modesty issues...there is great safety in this for all kinds of issues! God has been good to his church, giving us his Spirit, his word, and the ministry for the perfection of the saints.

Troy

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Polaris

In the first place Prax, when I got the Holy Ghost, one of the first things God told me to do was to put some clothes on...and I mean in a way that went far beyond what the world calls "normal". So I think that is our first "stop" on the road to clarifying this issue...when you feel self-conscious or get that "under-dressed" feeling, that's probably the spirit of God telling you you don't have enought clothes on (I'm saying "you" in a general sense...not you, personally). My wife, as a new convert, went through this...going to a church gathering and tugging at her sleeves and such...feeling like she was too exposed. I've heard of quite a few people experiencing this awareness of a need for modesty soon after conversion. Of course, this goes totally against what the world calls "normal". Going swimming in mixed company with bathing suits on is no problem for the world. They could go out and mow the lawn in shorts and a tank-top (or no shirt at all) and think that's just fine...but that's what regeneration does for you...the grace of God in your heart teaches you to live soberly, righteously and godly.

Our second "stop" is the word of God. The Bible indicates that exposing one's thigh is nakedness, and this is from ancient times. Even the old testament priests had to wear undergarments that stretched from the loins to the thighs to prevent someone from seeing up their garments. We'll let the record reflect that the lower part of the legs and the feet didn't seem to be a concern, but above the knee most definitely was. This gives us a feel for what the Biblically sound position would entail.

Finally, the word of God says to "ask for the old paths", and that the younger should submit to the elder, so WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF THE ABOVE, let's look at what Holy Ghost-filled, anointed people of God have felt that God has written on their hearts, and have preached with authority. Holiness-minded people (myself included) have almost universally recognized that taking off one's shirt is nudity, and through the witness of the Holy Ghost, we've had the law of God written in our hearts telling us that exposing the thigh is nakedness. So that is where parameters have come from such as having skirts come past the knee. I know that this doesn't answer EVERY modesty question, but it's a good start.

Taking into account "the Big Three"...how does it square with the Holy Ghost, how does it line-up to the Bible, and what does the consensus of our elders seem to be goes FAR beyond modesty issues...there is great safety in this for all kinds of issues! God has been good to his church, giving us his Spirit, his word, and the ministry for the perfection of the saints.

Troy

Thanks, however it seems that many who claim to have the Holy Ghost don't all agree and I am not merely speaking of here. I mean Christianity in general. I have seen many women claiming to be led of the Spirit wear low cut tops and to church of all places and bend over to pray for someone else. Yet we have some Christian women here (Sherri) that confesses she is led to NOT dress that way, for which I am glad and I admire she is led to that conclusion.

One last thing. I remember once during a revival we had a young lady there that was the sister of a member. She came during a revival and the power of God was very strong in that service. I remember her almost running to the alter afterwards and the whole time she was tugging on her very short skirt to make it lower than what it was. She seemed convicted by the Spirit.

I am wondering based on what you said and Sherri and others if perhaps we are not all influenced this way by the Spirit but some of us might be ignoring what the Spirit is saying to us and instead going by our own flesh and saying THAT is the Spirit speaking to us.

I remember hearing Tammi Faye Baker saying God told her that her makeup was ok. Not to make an issue of makeup being a sin or anything...whether it is or isn't I seriously doubt God is going to tell someone her makeup is ok...that just seems out of character