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Do you think the UPC is changing from those days in 1992?
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Yes.
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Do you think 'one steppers' would be given a license?
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I was offered mine back. And the man who made the offer was named in Tom Fudge's book as a ... I forget the word, but supposedly "hard core?"
A lot of the generalizations of this rift fail to reveal the very complicated dynamics of the individual and the influence a single individual can wield at the right times.
Once, a new friend introduced me to his wife. In the conversation it turned out she had the same last name as a notorious "conservative." She mentioned her father Brother... I said, "Oh, Brother... in ...?" She immediately stiffened and said, "No! Not that Brother... " I learned then how that even within families there are some very serious differences of opinion.
People don't like the way things are. Nobody does. But we've got so much momentum behind our learned behavior that it's hard to break free. I think we have some very valuable things to offer to the world in general and to Evangelical Christianity in particular. But we're robbing them and ourselves at the same time.
To be fair, to us and everyone else: these types of issues are prevalent in just about every type of group and denomination.
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
Do you think those who don't hold to the AS and all its standards such as owning a tv would be given a license?
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"AS"? Apostolic Standards? The way to get around the TV ban is to fit a TV tuner card into your PC's PCI expansion slot and away you go. Let me see, I have either seen or installed such a card in Brother ...'s computer and ... and ... and ... Just have any UPC pastor who seems to stay really up on current events bring his PC over to you for some work and you can see how he's been watching the Fox News Channel.
Some say that this is also banned already but I think most preachers see the changes coming on the horizon and are just getting their feet in the water. Years ago I asked, "What happens when TV programming is available - but without a TV? Do we ban electricity?" People laughed like I was an idiot.
I was an idiot. I should have been buying stock back then.
To answer your question straightly; yes, it just depends on how you answer the questions and who has a grudge against whom. If there's a grudge going on, then it doesn't matter how "clean" a man is, he's not getting in. We're kind of like the US Senate in that way.
A single determined and stubborn individual can hold things up for whatever reason they want. Sometimes they do it just to prove how "tough" they are. You don't want the brethren saying that you've gone "soft" on doctrine or standards. You don't even have to name the doctrines or standards. Just say, "they've let down..." or "they're soft..."
I was kept out of an unnamed Bible College because its president was aid to have "compromised..." No one said what he "compromised..." I was just told to go to another unnamed school. After I had already been accepted and met the comprising president and his dean.
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