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Old 02-26-2007, 12:38 PM
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PP ... this is exactly what Felicity and others have been trying to say about those who would make the gift of the Holy Ghost as an obstacle ... or forcing others to accept your exact soteriological view ....
So you think that because I preach that the Holy Ghost baptism is necessary for salvation I am heretical, and a spiritual abortionist?

I do not view the Holy Ghost as an obstacle, I view it as the Power that removes obstacles.
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:40 PM
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So you think that because I preach that the Holy Ghost baptism is necessary for salvation I am heretical, and a spiritual abortionist?

I do not view the Holy Ghost as an obstacle, I view it as the Power that removes obstacles.
No one said you do ... but would you acknowlege it's pervasive in your movement???
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:42 PM
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No one said you do ... but would you acknowlege it's pervasive in your movement???

I thought we were part of the SAME movement?
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:43 PM
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I thought we were part of the SAME movement?
No answer ... I used the term movement so not be accused of org bashing
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:44 PM
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No one said you do ... but would you acknowlege it's pervasive in your movement???
Pervasive no, present yes.
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:45 PM
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Pervasive no, present yes.
Then ... why no righteous indignation? ... why then are you so focused on standards ... and not examining how many are entering our churches and leave damaged.
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:51 PM
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Then ... why no righteous indignation? ... why then are you so focused on standards ... and not examining how many are entering our churches and leave damaged.
You lost me there, pardner.

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Damaged how?
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:58 PM
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You lost me there, pardner.

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Damaged how?
Maybe it will become clearer, one day... or perhaps someone can elaborate on the effects of preaching Holy Ghost or Hell as preached by the PACJers.
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Old 02-26-2007, 01:12 PM
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Maybe it will become clearer, one day... or perhaps someone can elaborate on the effects of preaching Holy Ghost or Hell as preached by the PACJers.
Well I believe if you don't have His Spirit, you are none of His.
Does that make me a bad preacher?
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