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07-23-2007, 12:43 PM
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I wear a wedding ring and have felt no conviction for it.If i did i would remove it.I was raised not to wear jewelry ,but i have abandoned my raising and seek after the will of God rather than the traditions of man.
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07-23-2007, 05:34 PM
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I wear a wedding ring and have felt no conviction for it.If i did i would remove it.I was raised not to wear jewelry ,but i have abandoned my raising and seek after the will of God rather than the traditions of man.
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Hang on just a minute. How can you on one hand say you are willing to remove it for conviction's sake and then turn around and suggest that not wearing jewelry is a man made tradition?
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07-23-2007, 08:05 PM
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Hang on just a minute. How can you on one hand say you are willing to remove it for conviction's sake and then turn around and suggest that not wearing jewelry is a man made tradition?
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I said i would remove it "if"God convicted me of it, but i see it as a man made tradition.I dont see anything biblically against a wedding ring.
A tradition just like the hair,pants ect. 
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07-23-2007, 09:48 PM
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I said i would remove it "if"God convicted me of it, but i see it as a man made tradition.I dont see anything biblically against a wedding ring.
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Actually, I think there's some Bible to back this no jewelry thing. Brother Epley made a good point about it being tolerated by God in the OT and them always taking it off whenever they were trying to get back right with Him. The principle is there, Brother. I will agree it's not a spelled out thou shalt not type of thing, but the principle is still there.
I see the hair, pants, etc. thing to be the right principle, but misapplied.
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07-24-2007, 01:42 AM
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Actually, I think there's some Bible to back this no jewelry thing. Brother Epley made a good point about it being tolerated by God in the OT and them always taking it off whenever they were trying to get back right with Him. The principle is there, Brother. I will agree it's not a spelled out thou shalt not type of thing, but the principle is still there.
I see the hair, pants, etc. thing to be the right principle, but misapplied.
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Actually the OT does not merely have God tolerating Jewelry, but promoting it by referring to righteous Israel having jewels or how God wanted to deck Israel with Jewels....it was when Israel was bad that God wanted to take her jewels and that was the same principle of Israel taking off their jewels to get right with God...they also put on sackclothe and ashes. That doesn't mean God hated Jewelry or only tolerated it.
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07-24-2007, 07:56 AM
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Actually the OT does not merely have God tolerating Jewelry, but promoting it by referring to righteous Israel having jewels or how God wanted to deck Israel with Jewels....it was when Israel was bad that God wanted to take her jewels and that was the same principle of Israel taking off their jewels to get right with God...they also put on sackclothe and ashes. That doesn't mean God hated Jewelry or only tolerated it.
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This is good discussion. Now how do you temper this with the NT?
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07-24-2007, 08:09 AM
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Anyone care to produce the scripture that says a woman must wear a wedding ring to show she is married.
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07-25-2007, 06:23 PM
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This is good discussion. Now how do you temper this with the NT?
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What do you mean? You want me to make the same arguments and refutations I just made about a month ago on this forum in another thread?
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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07-24-2007, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Rico
Actually, I think there's some Bible to back this no jewelry thing. Brother Epley made a good point about it being tolerated by God in the OT and them always taking it off whenever they were trying to get back right with Him. The principle is there, Brother. I will agree it's not a spelled out thou shalt not type of thing, but the principle is still there.
I see the hair, pants, etc. thing to be the right principle, but misapplied.
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I don't agree with him [Steve Epley - ed.] that a preacher isn't a real man of God if he doesn't preach against jewelry, but I can accept that he sees it that way.
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Rico,
Thank you for stating your position. 
Are you willing to elaborate on the bible you use to get there?
I think I perceive some depth, awareness, and sensibility bubbling up through the anti-ultracon reactionary in you.
Who says these forums can't be helpful?
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07-25-2007, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by OP_Carl
Rico,
Thank you for stating your position.
Are you willing to elaborate on the bible you use to get there?
I think I perceive some depth, awareness, and sensibility bubbling up through the anti-ultracon reactionary in you.
Who says these forums can't be helpful? |
For me, I quit wearing jewelry before I heard any teaching on the practice. I was in church one service and had my hands raised to God in worship. At the time I wore a wedding band. I became of aware of the fact that I could feel the Holy Ghost everywhere in my body but the hand I had the wedding ring on. I took the wedding ring off and could feel God in that hand again. I tried it a few times to be sure I wasn't imagining what was happening. I haven't worn jewelry since.
As far as studying goes, it has been a long time since I studied it out. I believe the NT scriptures that talk about not adorning with gold and pearls apply, and I believe the example Bro Epley gave about the Israelites taking off their jewelry supports the no jewelry argument. I also remember some scriptures talking about an offering for the iniquity of the holy things in the temple as having to do with them being made of gold.
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