UPCI's Randy Hollis Throws Down the Gauntlet: The Emancipation of Isaac

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Amen, Brother Strange. We cannot draw on "fear" to get people into relationship with Jesus Christ.

It may work for a few hours, but not for the long haul.

Amen, PO.

How many have we witnessed that left the altar of repentace with a rule book, only to never to be heard from again.

The rule book is out the window, the soul is lost to eternity, having never had the issues of the heart fortified with the Word of God that gives strength and courage to overcome the world, the flesh annd the devil

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

Amen, PO.

How many have we witnessed that left the altar of repentace with a rule book, only to never to be heard from again.

The rule book is out the window, the soul is lost to eternity, having never had the issues of the heart fortified with the Word of God that gives strength and courage to overcome the world, the flesh annd the devil

Yes!!!!! I can't stand it!!! They've missed the beauty of having someone allowing the God of Glory to come in and sup with them!!!! It's life transforming and so intimate and powerful. I want that for everyone!!!

[DividedThigh]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Yes!!!!! I can't stand it!!! They've missed the beauty of having someone allowing the God of Glory to come in and sup with them!!!! It's life transforming and so intimate and powerful. I want that for everyone!!!

be careful bro strange and po, you are getting close to the spout where the glory comes out, go for it, dt

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by DividedThigh

be careful bro strange and po, you are getting close to the spout where the glory comes out, go for it, dt

...and possibility the recitation of an old favorite cliche'...
...'love, love, love, that's the Charismatics; all spirit no truth...

and yet everything I read above is about:
-pointing to Jesus
-not reprocessing the light that shines in an individual's heart
-each child of God experiencing truth for themselves
-every person walking in their own relationship with the one who loved them first

The lack of administering/establishing rules is not the lack of truth.

We are sharing and exhorting our testimony involving the principles of the Word that have borne witness in our spirit of the Spirit. Every individual will consider whether they will seek or reject this invitation to walk with him.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by tbpew

...and possibility the recitation of an old favorite cliche'...
...'love, love, love, that's the Charismatics; all spirit no truth...

and yet everything I read above is about:
-pointing to Jesus
-not obstructing the light that shines in an individual's heart
-each child of God experiencing truth for themselves
-every person walking in their own relationship with the one who loved them first

The lack of administering/establishing rules is not the lack of truth.

We are sharing and exhorting our testimony involving the principles of the Word that have borne witness in our spirit of the Spirit. Every individual will consider whether they will seek or reject this invitation to walk with him.

This is the bottom line! Amen!

I remember as a new convert the Lord giving me this song - the emboldened being what He was trying to teach me.

Joy Unspeakable

I have found His grace is all complete,
He supplieth every need;
While I sit and learn at Jesus’ feet,
I am free, yes, free indeed

Chorus
It is joy unspeakable and full of glory,
Full of glory, full of glory;
It is joy unspeakable and full of glory,
Oh, the half has never yet been told

I have found the pleasure I once craved,
It is joy and peace within;
What a wondrous blessing, I am saved
From the awful gulf of sin

I have found that hope so bright and clear,
Living in the realm of grace;
Oh, the Savior’s presence is so near,
I can see His smiling face


I have found the joy no tongue can tell,
How its waves of glory roll;
It is like a great o’erflowing well,
Springing up within my soul

Originally Posted by DividedThigh

be careful bro strange and po, you are getting close to the spout where the glory comes out, go for it, dt

WELL, JUST GIVE GOD GLORY, BROTHER!!!!

Meanwhile, just pray for this infernal stock market!

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Yes!!!!! I can't stand it!!! They've missed the beauty of having someone allowing the God of Glory to come in and sup with them!!!! It's life transforming and so intimate and powerful. I want that for everyone!!!

Amen, sis.

It is all bound up in the understanding, "What is a relationship?"

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

Amen, PO.

How many have we witnessed that left the altar of repentace with a rule book, only to never to be heard from again.

The rule book is out the window, the soul is lost to eternity, having never had the issues of the heart fortified with the Word of God that gives strength and courage to overcome the world, the flesh and the devil

Wow, Where do you and PO come from?

I don't think the POA ever had a rule book that was handed out to the repentant sinner. I am SURE my dad never had one he handed out at any of the churches he ever pastored. In fact, in all of the churches I preached revivals in from 1976 through 1980 and from 1999 to present, I never recall a rule book being handed out.

I have seen the ignorant motor mouth who couldn't keep their filthy lips off of new converts or repentant backsliders but I have never seen a codified list of requirements.

I guess the short answer to the question is, "in my 32+ years of experience, none!"

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You went to ABI? Do you know Brother Bruce Thompson?

I do remember the name, but I'm not sure he was in my class.

Originally Posted by OP_Carl

It's pretty tough to be against principle-based teaching these days. Nevertheless, I will once again urge people to be careful with this man.

You're too fearful!

His "enlightened" principle-based teaching incorporates some sophistry that indicates to me it could quite easily be a Trojan horse for something else.

Actually, all you really know is what he told you.

What is your point?


I'll not sit near him, much less with him. I don't want to feel any part of him. I have felt his spirit, and that was enough for me.

If that's the case, then you must have an aversion to the Holy Ghost.

1 John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.


This "need" is highly debatable. Become enchanted at your own
risk.

I am "enchanted" with not one and am not one to believe everything I hear. I have been in MANY different pentecostal circles...more than most. I have heard a LOT of things. Most of what I hear rings true and some is just wackiness.

I encouraged folks to check out his web site so that they could see for themselves what kind of church he pastors. You can pick up a lot on a pastor's heart by the church's web site, IMO. They could then make their own judgement.

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I take it that you know this man?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Brother Strange
Amen, PO.

How many have we witnessed that left the altar of repentance with a rule book, only to never to be heard from again.

The rule book is out the window, the soul is lost to eternity, having never had the issues of the heart fortified with the Word of God that gives strength and courage to overcome the world, the flesh and the devil

Originally Posted by philjones

Wow, Where do you and PO come from?

I don't think the POA ever had a rule book that was handed out to the repentant sinner. I am SURE my dad never had one he handed out at any of the churches he ever pastored. In fact, in all of the churches I preached revivals in from 1976 through 1980 and from 1999 to present, I never recall a rule book being handed out.

I have seen the ignorant motor mouth who couldn't keep their filthy lips off of new converts or repentant backsliders but I have never seen a codified list of requirements.

I guess the short answer to the question is, "in my 32+ years of experience, none!"

Brother Phil,
I am speaking from the perspective of seeing men trying to rapidly change a person instead of preaching Jesus Christ and letting the Holy Ghost do the convicting.

I'm not going to be convicted of taking my toe nail polish off when people are sitting there starring at my feet in order to get the point across - which is a personal experience, as way of example.

There are going to be times, lined up with His Word, that order is going to be set out through anointed preaching. Some people don't have a clue and God, through his minister and through prayer, will give direction.

What I have a problem with and you've heard it a million times - "Don't skin the fish before you get it into the boat!"

I've seen this happen much to often, through the years, and it makes for a saint that hasn't set their feet on a solid rock from the outset. They just did it out of obedience of being new.

Now, there is nothing wrong with obedience, but at some point you are going to go through a season of questioning some things. If we allow God to do the work through our prayers and "sincere, anointed" preaching, we would have a lot more stable saints looking up and not around.

JMHO!